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RPGing Mouse Guard: system suggestions

Started by 3rik, May 25, 2013, 03:41:14 PM

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3rik

May 25, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
If you wanted to run a Mouse Guard game but get rid of its needlessly fiddly default bean counting and storygamy mechanics, what (kind of) system do you think would be appropriate?
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May 25, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Grając zaś w grę komputerową, być może zdarzyło się wam zapragnąć zejść z wyznaczonej przez autorów ścieżki i, miast zabić smoka i ożenić się z księżniczką, zabić księżniczkę i ożenić się ze smokiem.

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May 25, 2013, 07:22:13 PM
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May 25, 2013, 07:26:42 PM
On a serious note, perhaps I think if it were me maybe BESM (2nd Ed) but played serious (well as serious as anthro mice get) not anime/silly style
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May 25, 2013, 11:30:17 PM
Historia Rodentia - using Legend (MRQII)

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May 25, 2013, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: HombreLoboDomesticado;657464If you wanted to run a Mouse Guard game but get rid of its needlessly fiddly default bean counting and storygamy mechanics, what (kind of) system do you think would be appropriate?

Green Ronin's A Song of Ice and Fire would be my pick. The fact of being mice is less relevant to recreating MG than the gritty medieval world IMO. Also, given all PCs are mice, there is no real need for species mechanics.

crkrueger

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May 25, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
Only Hombre can answer what he means by "Storygamy", but if that definition includes OOC metagame and literary emulation mechanics, then you want to steer well clear of SIFRP.  Then again, unlike some other systems, I've found the SIFRP ones very flexible and easy to tune without affecting the foundation of all resolution.
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May 26, 2013, 12:02:32 AM Last Edit: May 26, 2013, 12:06:53 AM by Skywalker
Quote from: CRKrueger;657505Only Hombre can answer what he means by "Storygamy", but if that definition includes OOC metagame and literary emulation mechanics, then you want to steer well clear of SIFRP.

I assume you are referring to the abilityof or the players to create your House during character creation and the social conflict system. If so, I agree that they are included in SIFRP. I imagine the first would be dropped for Mouse Guard (can't think of what you would use it for) but the second might be of use given how MG tends to be much about intrigue as fighting YMMV.

crkrueger

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May 26, 2013, 01:47:06 AM
Quote from: Skywalker;657508I assume you are referring to the abilityof or the players to create your House during character creation and the social conflict system. If so, I agree that they are included in SIFRP. I imagine the first would be dropped for Mouse Guard (can't think of what you would use it for) but the second might be of use given how MG tends to be much about intrigue as fighting YMMV.

Also the choosing of injuries and wounds vs. defeat, the results of defeat, etc...  There's a lot of little meta things in there.  If you are playing Mouse Guard though, you probably do want some literary emulation there, so tweaking some of the combat stuff could work for him.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

3rik

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May 26, 2013, 10:27:15 AM Last Edit: May 26, 2013, 10:34:42 AM by 3rik
I own Hyperborean Mice but I haven't run or played it. It's presented as a kind of sword & sorcery with anthropomorphic mice. My idea of Mouse Guard is that the characters are rather vulnerable and have to rely on resourcefulness, teamwork and perseverance. Though there's plenty of opportunity for intrigue I don't really see the need for mechanics covering that aspect in much detail.

There's a Savage Worlds "conversion" available on the internet but I don't think SW is gritty enough.

Fudge (as used in Terra Incognita) might actually not be a bad option.

I was also thinking BRP. I'm unfamiliar with Legend, which is apparently required for Historia Rodentia. How BRP-compatible would you say Historia Rodentia is?
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#10
May 26, 2013, 12:06:17 PM
Why not D&D? :D

Harvesters (from the Troll Lord crew) uses Castles & Crusades and Woodland Warriors (from Simon "Barbarians of Lemuria" Washbiurne) uses Swords & Wizardry.

crkrueger

#11
May 26, 2013, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: HombreLoboDomesticado;657549I own Hyperborean Mice but I haven't run or played it. It's presented as a kind of sword & sorcery with anthropomorphic mice. My idea of Mouse Guard is that the characters are rather vulnerable and have to rely on resourcefulness, teamwork and perseverance. Though there's plenty of opportunity for intrigue I don't really see the need for mechanics covering that aspect in much detail.

There's a Savage Worlds "conversion" available on the internet but I don't think SW is gritty enough.

Fudge (as used in Terra Incognita) might actually not be a bad option.

I was also thinking BRP. I'm unfamiliar with Legend, which is apparently required for Historia Rodentia. How BRP-compatible would you say Historia Rodentia is?

Well if it's more or less Legend, then very, but Legend will have a more complicated combat system.  Download the Legend pdf from Drivethru, it's one US dollar.
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Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Danger

#12
May 26, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;657563Why not D&D? :D

Harvesters (from the Troll Lord crew) uses Castles & Crusades and Woodland Warriors (from Simon "Barbarians of Lemuria" Washbiurne) uses Swords & Wizardry.

Sneak a peek at my mini-review of Harvesters here on this very site!

Honestly not sure if things have changed any with that game, so my paltry review may no longer hold any sort of water if indeed they've updated said bad-boy.  I'd suggest the game for its familiarity (system wise) if anything else.
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May 27, 2013, 03:09:08 AM
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May 27, 2013, 07:38:39 AM
Quote from: HombreLoboDomesticado;657549I own Hyperborean Mice but I haven't run or played it. It's presented as a kind of sword & sorcery with anthropomorphic mice. My idea of Mouse Guard is that the characters are rather vulnerable and have to rely on resourcefulness, teamwork and perseverance. Though there's plenty of opportunity for intrigue I don't really see the need for mechanics covering that aspect in much detail.
I chose Hyperborean Mice for two reasons:

-Because its premise is very similar to the one of Mouse Guard; a setting where PCs are mice, and an owl is as terrifying as a dragon.

-Because the system looks very good. In fact, if my group doesn't buy the premise, I could use it as a generic fantasy game with human characters.

Do you think that Hyperborean Mice isn't a good match for Mouse Guard? If so, why?
Grając zaś w grę komputerową, być może zdarzyło się wam zapragnąć zejść z wyznaczonej przez autorów ścieżki i, miast zabić smoka i ożenić się z księżniczką, zabić księżniczkę i ożenić się ze smokiem.

Nihil sine magno labore vita dedit mortalibus.

And by your sword shall you live and serve thy brother, and it shall come to pass when you have dominion, you will break Jacob's yoke from your neck.

Dios, que buen vasallo, si tuviese buen señor!
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