If you hate AI art in your TTRPG, which way do you lean?

Hague · February 12, 2025, 09:58:08 PM

I dislike BAD art, not necessarily AI art. A lot of the AI 'art' doesn't look that good to my eye, but I don't hate the fact that it's AI. I'd rather look at AI art than a lot of what made it into a lot of Palladium products over the years, for example.

Jeffadamo · February 13, 2025, 12:18:06 PM

I draw, but I don't have any natural gift for art. I think I have a lot less potential than average, but I've gotten pretty good. Better than the stuff in ODnD at least.

It's a tremendous bummer to practice something for hours on end for like twenty years only for computers to come along and completely flood the world with AI images. Most of them are dogshit, but some of them are actually good art, which is worse.

I understand how much it must cost to hire professional artists for an RPG, but it still really sucks.

BoxCrayonTales · February 13, 2025, 12:24:00 PM

Courts are starting to define AI generators as copyright infringement. The tide might be turning

D-ko · February 13, 2025, 08:37:48 PM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 13, 2025, 12:24:00 PMCourts are starting to define AI generators as copyright infringement. The tide might be turning

Oh yeah, it often is questionable. Someone would be wise to only train on actual public domain resources, but with the ease of copyright infringement online... I'm not sure it will happen anytime soon. Again, this is why using AI for personal or small projects seems okay to me but a bigger RPG should really invest in real art, if not just to protect themselves.

Omega · February 14, 2025, 05:31:41 PM

Well now these fuckers are assisting AI art scamming. Now these things can make a "Speed Draw" video to fool people into thinking the thief actually drew it.

She is right. This "feature" only exists as a scamming tool.

zircher · February 14, 2025, 06:29:17 PM

Quote from: D-ko on February 13, 2025, 08:37:48 PMSomeone would be wise to only train on actual public domain resources...

There is such a thing. I played with it back in the day (SD 1.0?), it was fine for some drawing, wood cuts, and oil paintings on non-modern topics. Something to consider depending on your art style.

There was Adobe Firefly back when they claimed that it was trained only on PD and licensed art. But, that was proven to be a lie since it was learned that some Mid-Journey images were used in its training data. I should check and see if a more modern PD model was built.

Omega · February 15, 2025, 01:03:21 AM

Thats the other reason so many despise AI art and whatever. The incessant attempts at deception. Both from users and especially the creators.

zircher · February 15, 2025, 12:34:15 PM

US Copyright Office policy does address that a bit. If generative art was used in your project, you have to claim that or otherwise your copyright registration will be voided.

D-ko · February 15, 2025, 12:45:41 PM

Really? I've love a source on that, not that I don't believe you but I'd like to read more on that.

zircher · February 16, 2025, 01:36:38 AM

Quote from: D-ko on February 15, 2025, 12:45:41 PMReally? I've love a source on that, not that I don't believe you but I'd like to read more on that.

"It explained that if a work contains more than a de minimis amount of AI-generated material, the applicant should disclose that information and provide a brief statement describing the human author's contribution." -- Page 11, Para 2.

https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-2-Copyrightability-Report.pdf

zircher · February 16, 2025, 01:38:04 AM

I found reading the whole document to be informative on the Office's principles and criteria for copyrightability.