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Hasbro Fails, but OpenRPG / #ORC may be a Trap

Started by RPGPundit, January 15, 2023, 12:28:13 AM

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Quote from: Thor's Nads on February 02, 2023, 06:51:59 PMI think you meant YMMV. And yes, my mileage does vary. I've come to despise optional rules. They are laziness and indecisiveness on the part of the designers. It is their job to play test and design the hell out of their game and make every part the best they can. Optional rules are whiffling and passing that burden on to the players.

I speak with experience and have learned my lesson.

Note: there are no absolutes here, occasionally there may be a very good reason for an optional rules. Those are the exception, whereas in 2e they were the rule.

Not really, though I get where you are going with that..  The problem with optional rules is not having optional rules.  The problem is the designer not being clear with their intent. There are things that a system is designed to do and things that it is not.  There could be areas where those are multiple things.  There can also be areas that aren't central to that intent. 

Which is why, if its not blindingly obvious in context (and it seldom is), then an optional rule ought to tell you what case it is for, explicitly.  After having told you in the default rules somewhere why those are the way they are.  Or if the thing isn't central to the main intent of the rules, it can be called out as something you can pretty much change however you want without likely breaking anything.  GM's being people, there's no accounting for everything. 

If it's an optional rule with intent, then it should be tested like anything else.  If it's not going to be tested, then it wouldn't be an optional rule.  It would instead be some musing on how you might house rule to get something in that ballpark. :D

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Quote from: Ruprecht on February 01, 2023, 10:38:56 AM
Prediction. When ORC ships and everyone is making a big deal about it WotC counters by re-issuing the OGL with a new clause saying it cannot be revoked, ever, thus stealing ORC thunder and giving people a bit more of what they were demanding as we get closer to the movie premier.

That would be a tremendously clever move by Hasbro/WotC. Which means I doubt they'll think of it, unless they happen to see this post.
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Quote from: jhkim on February 01, 2023, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on January 30, 2023, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 25, 2023, 10:54:16 PM
Eric Mona first agreed in a thread with me (after I convinced him) that they can't have a morality clause. The Paizo account later confirmed that the ORCLicense itself wouldn't have a morality clause.

That's... not how things went down, as I can assure you the ORC was never going to have a morality clause.

Anon - sounds like you also saw the thread that Pundit is talking about. If it is publicly available, can you give a link to it? If not, can you describe more about it?

If you all just followed my every tweet like normal people do, you wouldn't have to be asking this.
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