Outside of my first Women's Studies class I usually aced my Women's Studies classes. First one was where I accidentally turn in my final essay into the wrong mailbox and ended up dinging two different classes with incompletes (the other was a minor essay worth far less points). Still, was waltzing into my final with an A for that first class, even with a Teacher's Assistant who stated she was a lesbian by choice as a political act... and seemed to grade accordingly.

Had a fun time watching Hmong emigrés to the USA talk with Vietnamese expats during study abroad. Everyone had a fascinating time sharing their suffering. My Euro roommates toured Vietnam during break and got some juicy dish about how they really thought about Americans, too. And then there were the Central Asian Republics exchange students, talking about life during and post-Communism... Let's just say everyone has cause to scream and shout; there is a lot of death and fingerpointing to go around.

(But then I also have family everywhere, including Lat Am, so this topic is treading familiar ground... "So far from Heaven, too close to the USA." It's the same everywhere whenever one is too close to a hegemon and its interests. .)

Rigidity. Flexibility. Fixed. Fluid. How do we follow ideals without calcifying or shattering? How do we juggle ambiguity without getting lost? Like the story of 'the Tree and the Reed', we all have something to learn from one another.

So jump in rpg.net refugees! We're friendly here. Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya!

So they are back to the "woe is me" routine over there?

It's fairly simple that it's "emotionally taxing the staff" over there... because you're asking for "emotionally taxing moderation" practices.

I'm no fan of Trump or whatever right wing group/person association they dislike. I am a staunch libertarian and I avoid posting there because I'm fairly sure views would seen as right wing in the extreme.

Quote from: Willmark;1089089So they are back to the "woe is me" routine over there?

It's fairly simple that it's "emotionally taxing the staff" over there... because you're asking for "emotionally taxing moderation" practices.

I'm no fan of Trump or whatever right wing group/person association they dislike. I am a staunch libertarian and I avoid posting there because I'm fairly sure views would seen as right wing in the extreme.

Pretty much this.

I used to consider myself a Social Democrat and a left-leaning liberal.

But now, I am firmly a libertarian because the modern Millennial Left has gone insane and straight into authoritarian Neo-Bolshevik hipster nonsense

Quote from: Willmark;1089089It's fairly simple that it's "emotionally taxing the staff" over there... because you're asking for "emotionally taxing moderation" practices.

It's all for OUR benefit, don't you see Willmark? They're sacrificing this of themselves for us, and asking nothing in return except our love of Them and Their Work.

Quote from: Willmark;1089089I'm no fan of Trump or whatever right wing group/person association they dislike. I am a staunch libertarian and I avoid posting there because I'm fairly sure views would seen as right wing in the extreme.

Sadly you are correct, it literally doesn't matter what you are anymore to the far left (not liberals necessarily). If you aren't them, you're the enemy of the righteous cause; right now, that label is some combination of: alt-right, racist, patriarchal, sexism supporter, rape supporter, white/male, anti-progress, anti-equality, fascist, etc.

It saddens me to think that creative people out there may be less willing to write or create publicly available content, simply knowing anything you ever write or produce in any game product, any form of media, will forever be there for these people to pick apart like vultures years or decades after the fact; inserting wild accusations of any of the above violations wherever they seem like they could, in theory, through metaphor, coincidentally, possibly exist. And then likely demonizing you, your company, any related products, etc. by association.

Then again that's pure conjecture. Optimistically, I hope there are an equal number who are fired up by this sort of opposition to write what they are passionate about without fear of consequence, or even directly in response to it.

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade
Guys like us, we had it made
Those were the days...

And you knew where you were then
Watching shows like Gentle Ben
Mister, we could use a man like Sheriff Lobo again...

Disco Duck and Fleetwood Mac
Playing out of my 8-Track
Michael Jackson still was black
Those were the days...

Seriously, I'm just waiting for RPGnet to finally collapse under its own dogma and ban itself into oblivion and the RPG fandom will be richer for having lost them.

If Onyx Path Forums dies too, we'll be in a new golden age....


I'm gonna be drinking bourbon, reading hentai doujins, and watching reruns of All in the Family and High School of the Dead as a form of protest against RPGnet for the next two weeks.

Archie Bunker is the kind of hero and role-model the Millennial generation needs, but not the one we deserve.

Archie was based and chair-pilled.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1089093Then again that's pure conjecture. Optimistically, I hope there are an equal number who are fired up by this sort of opposition to write what they are passionate about without fear of consequence, or even directly in response to it.

I sure hope so! I have neither the talent nor the drive to write creatively in any capacity. So I do what I think of as the next best thing and go out of my way to buy the product of such people when I can.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1089097I'm gonna be drinking bourbon, reading hentai doujins, and watching reruns of All in the Family and High School of the Dead as a form of protest against RPGnet for the next two weeks.

I'll just have my vodka and watch a few Columbo reruns like that awful one with Shatner, then maybe some more Get Shorty. But I wish you luck.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1089097Archie was based and chair-pilled.

I'm actually looking at getting a reading chair very close to his for the east-facing room. You've got to have a comfortable place to read your books and do some writing. Reading RPG's laying on a bed or what have you is onerous to me now, despite having done that for years when I was younger out of necessity. Novels are different/easier imo due to form factor and formatting.

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1089102I sure hope so! I have neither the talent nor the drive to write creatively in any capacity. So I do what I think of as the next best thing and go out of my way to buy the product of such people when I can.

I'm exactly the same! I'll likely never publish a single thing, I'm more or less incapable. But I'm more than enthusiastic about supporting those who are willing to dump their raw, unrestrained, unedited creativity and then work to polish it for consumption by the masses; that is, without having each element carefully manicured to meet the required "social quota".

Terrible Tony has decided to ask to get banned from TBP, and he did it with style. From his penultimate post:
   Moderator Text:
   Not giving someone a platform is literally the opposite of giving free publicity.

You, personally, were given a breakdown of how the arguments you're using get used to give bigots a foothold, and "No, you don't understand my position, we have to talk to the bigots/not letting the bigots talk is just giving them publicity," is not a good response.

No, we do not have to listen or talk to bigots, and no, banning them is in no way playing their game. The first step to having less bigots is preventing the spread of bigots, not hand-wringing on why we have to listen to them in order to stop them.

You're threadbanned, and take three days off for concern-trolling.

Terrible Tony:
Concern-trolling? The same person who apparently said:
   Everyone has to walk their own path but by accepting the "bad" things, we give tacit approval. Our acceptance of morally questionable choices, making them somehow acceptable is something I can not do. For me it has to be more then words, I can not just say "X is bad, we need to be better", and then go ahead and support X, it feels like I would be making evil, well, banal.

about his decision to not purchase Orson Scott Card books due to OSC's homophobia is suddenly a far-right concern-troll? Doesn't concern-trolling require that the person is fighting to undermine an argument by presenting a fake belief? You seriously believe an LGBT poster who thinks buying Orson Scott Card books contributes to making evil banal is suddenly arguing to support hate speech and has zero chance of actually saying what he honestly thinks?

Why do you even allow discussion on anything if the stock response to anything that challenges the personal beliefs of a mod is to immediately accuse posters of sock-puppetting/sea-lioning/concern-trolling/etc. and banning them? For fuck's sake, he disagrees over whether or not banning somebody from entering the country based due to inciting hate speech is effective or not. That's a legitimate thing to discuss.

Can the admins just post a list of thoughts and beliefs we're required to stick to in order to avoid getting banned?

Fuck this place. I'm out. I don't care that we're not supposed to respond to mod decisions on the board. Because you don't care what your users think. You've gone full thought-police. I'm a person who got manhandled by the secret service for protesting at a Trump rally and has supported several transgender friends against vandalism and death threats that occurred ever since Trump was elected telling you this. I'm not some insidious alt-right troll like your paranoid eyes see lurking in between every bit of HTML markup around here.

(for the record: I think the jackass in question should be barred from entry for inciting hatred. but I also think it's the kind of thing that's worth discussing to make sure it's a valid viewpoint. I'm not so insecure in my beliefs that I just tell all dissenters to shut up as a matter of policy.)

Go ahead. Post a snarky condemnation. Lament how hard it is to keep order around here. Even post a meme about how glad you are to ban me too. It's been sad watching this place burn itself to the ground. And for what?

Trump?   Wow......

Quote from: wmarshal;1089150Terrible Tony has decided to ask to get banned from TBP, and he did it with style. From his penultimate post:

Stylish indeed! Though I can't seem to find the post in question. It appears his account and/or the original post may have been deleted?

Good job, Tony. I may disagree with you on some points, but I 100% agree with your final post.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1089163Stylish indeed! Though I can't seem to find the post in question. It appears his account and/or the original post may have been deleted?

The revolution eats its own. The Bolshevik SJWs are in effect purging the Menshevik Liberal Left out of the spaces they control. Maybe Terrible Tony will visit us here.

The thread is in their Tangency Open forum. You have to be a member to access that forum.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/anti-semitic-preacher-becomes-first-person-barred-from-entering-ireland.845912/page-6

I have zero love for the preacher the thread is about, but raising any question as to how to best confront such people is forbidden. The Two Minutes of Hate threads that get going at TBP require no pause to be allowed to consider if the favored approach is actually the best approach.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1089163Stylish indeed! Though I can't seem to find the post in question. It appears his account and/or the original post may have been deleted?

Yeah, seems like a new deal with the perma-banned, maybe deliberate or some aspect of the new software?

Quote from: wmarshal;1089165The revolution eats its own. The Bolshevik SJWs are in effect purging the Menshevik Liberal Left out of the spaces they control. Maybe Terrible Tony will visit us here.

I certainly hope he does. TBP does seem to be accelerating their rate of autophagy lately... Thanks for the link!

Quote from: CarlD.;1089173Yeah, seems like a new deal with the perma-banned, maybe deliberate or some aspect of the new software?

No idea. I tried going to his profile to look at post history but there was nothing to be found; I checked another permabanned user, same thing. So I suppose it must be in some sense deliberate. Particularly as TBP has a policy of not deleting accounts due to "database issues."