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Started by myleftnut, April 27, 2019, 06:46:09 PM

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Pat

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1091390Probably a Tangency discussion, which is always hidden from the outcasts, hoi polloi and uninitiated.
Correct. Anyone with an account that hasn't been banned can login and see it.

Fergurg

Quote from: Altheus;1091299I've just been permabanned for suggesting that an election with a high (10 times more than previously) proportion of postal votes warranted an investigation by the electoral commission. This apparently is racist dogwhistling. The fact that this behaviour is most often associated with the Britisish Pakistani community is a matter of historical fact.

I really cannot be arsed with that place anymore, I occupy the British centre-left position most of the time but this lot really do take the piss. I've had local councilors arrested for fiddling votes by registering lots of postal voters (20 in a 1 bedroom flat for instance) so I know it happens. I like the phrase Generation X Liberal, that probably does describe me.

Maybe I should have appealed with the phrase "Denying my lived experience".

The only thing I'll miss will be the tangency forum, but I can live without it.

I can help to explain this.

A major leftist talking point in America is that any attempt to ensure an election's validity is racist. Actual statement (forgot who said it): "There is no such thing as election fraud, except for racists trying to cancel minority votes." They actively oppose requiring IDs. Polling places were at one point legally required to post signs saying that proof of eligibility to vote would not be required.

Spinachcat

Quote from: Pat;1091307I liked that one of the supporting pieces of evidence proving you were a bad fit is that you had the temerity to suggest that electric razors might be a better deal over the long run, compared to expensive cartridges. That's racist!

If he tries that racist shit here, he'll be banned too!!

LOL. That's more crazy sauce than my chimichanga can handle right now.


Quote from: Altheus;1091299I've had local councilors arrested for fiddling votes by registering lots of postal voters (20 in a 1 bedroom flat for instance) so I know it happens.

What final penalty, if any, did they face?

Will there be an investigation into the x10 postal "voter" issue? Or is it getting swept under the rug?

Kiero

Quote from: Spinachcat;1091438What final penalty, if any, did they face?

Will there be an investigation into the x10 postal "voter" issue? Or is it getting swept under the rug?

One of Labour's key activists on the ground in the Peterborough by-election was Tariq Mahmood, convicted and jailed for electoral fraud in 2008 because of his involvement in the mayoral elections in 2004.
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Altheus

Quote from: Spinachcat;1091438What final penalty, if any, did they face?

Will there be an investigation into the x10 postal "voter" issue? Or is it getting swept under the rug?

Usually a fine, what I would like it to be is a fine and you become ineligible for public office.

TJS

Quote from: Fergurg;1091430I can help to explain this.

A major leftist talking point in America is that any attempt to ensure an election's validity is racist. Actual statement (forgot who said it): "There is no such thing as election fraud, except for racists trying to cancel minority votes." They actively oppose requiring IDs. Polling places were at one point legally required to post signs saying that proof of eligibility to vote would not be required.
It's ridiculous how they claim to be inclusive, but are unable to interpret the world except through the viewpoint of such a narrowly specific cultural lens.

Opaopajr

#456
This voting issue is off topic, but I can answer why that is:

The big issue is the USA history of using the mechanisms of government as an excuse to deny franchisement. Further, since each county's Registrar of Voters is its own state gov't department that verifies a voter (often thru 'residence'), the Voter Roster at the Poll Station itself is a legal document when signed (with full penalty of perjury attached).

So, since there was no Federal ID for centuries (an issue argued as federal overreach stepping onto the 9th Amendment for states rights), homeless are allowed to use a declared reachable "residence," illiteracy was handled by witnessing (and verification later by the Reg. of Voters), and various accomodations allowed for translation and disability special needs, the County Reg. Voter's dept already accounts and accomodates its resident citizen (and verifies discrepencies later under full force of perjury penalty) without the need to involve other agencies.

Further, Provisional Balloting is available for all extenuating circumstances. So if you absolutely MUST vote outside your polling station, you may. BUT, your vote will likely go "uncounted" for immediate winner declaration, unless there is a near tie requiring a recount. ALL provisional ballots will be counted later, AND will be audited in the following month to verify its validity (checking for perjury). ;) It is not a wise tactic to fraudulently affect elections, at all.

So, given our current hullabaloo with record DMV waiting and processing times, it is a matter already handled by one department present in each county of each state. Removing that authority from an already focused dept. that has a system in place to account and punish as needed, to process a new ID onto an already overburdened dept. is wasteful and deliberately setting up governance to fail in denser districts. Hence harming historically ethnic enclaves due to the nature of minority groups usually gathering in numbers for safety from majority exploitation.

Thus the (sociologically logical) accusation that it is a ploy to disenfranchise through the guise of being "reasonable" -- by deliberately ignoring a mostly functional system already in place by the states. :)

And now you know. :) Volunteered to staff voting polls more than a few times myself, been instructed by mandatory volunteer classes on these issues and how our system actually works. ;) It's a lot more solid than people think; voter fraud is way harder, with little reward, and massive punishment, than the average unaware punditing person thinks. :D
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Mordred Pendragon

#458
Ugh, I wish that the SJW's, Neo-Bolsheviks, and transtrenders at RPGnet and elsewhere stay the fuck away from Cyberpunk games and Cyberpunk culture.

Especially David "Olivia" Hill, who is a disgusting racist, Neo-Communist, and transtrender edgelord.

I find it so ironic that the SJW's hate on "edgy" content and use "edgelord" as one of their go-to insults for anyone who disagrees with their ideology when so many of them are communists and militant atheists.

Anyone who identifies as a Communist post-1991 is an edgelord, same goes to anyone who identifies as a Fascist post-1945.

It's high time we take the "Punk" out of Cyberpunk.
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SavageSchemer

So, what are the Perpetually Unhinged referring to when they talk about CDPR's (ongoing) history of being "the wrong people"? I've seen that line of though pop up a few times but don't know if it has an actual source, or if it's just one of those ideas the Insane Left say out loud and spreads as if it were true.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1092207So, what are the Perpetually Unhinged referring to when they talk about CDPR's (ongoing) history of being "the wrong people"? I've seen that line of though pop up a few times but don't know if it has an actual source, or if it's just one of those ideas the Insane Left say out loud and spreads as if it were true.

Can you tell me what CDPR is supposed to be? My search turned up something about pesticides in California...

SavageSchemer

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092209Can you tell me what CDPR is supposed to be? My search turned up something about pesticides in California...

Sorry, sure. It's short for CD Projekt Red - the makers of the Witcher and the Cyberpunk 2077 games.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
From "Play worlds, not rules"

Mordred Pendragon

Who else is with me in "removing the Punk from Cyberpunk" and telling the SJW's to fuck off and leave Cyberpunk 2077 and other forms of Cyberpunk media the fuck alone?
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SavageSchemer

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1092237Who else is with me in "removing the Punk from Cyberpunk" and telling the SJW's to fuck off and leave Cyberpunk 2077 and other forms of Cyberpunk media the fuck alone?

Sure. My only problem is that I don't see the SJW's as being the punks (protagonists) in this picture. They're more like a fascist faction that's trying to take power through subterfuge and subversion. Another facet in the machine against which to rage.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
From "Play worlds, not rules"

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1092239Sure. My only problem is that I don't see the SJW's as being the punks (protagonists) in this picture. They're more like a fascist faction that's trying to take power through subterfuge and subversion. Another facet in the machine against which to rage.

True, but let's not kid ourselves.

Despite its external veneer, punk culture is one of the most authoritarian subcultures out there.

At its very essence, punk is forced conformity via the illusion of nonconformity.

Same goes for Punk's bastard daughters (Goths, Emo, Hipsters, Alternative Rock, Scene Kids, Skinheads, and Dangerhairs)
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