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Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Spinachcat on September 11, 2013, 02:37:00 AM
To hell with Dwimmerdork.

It's wrong for the bung nugget who screwed over people in a Kickstarter to get boundless press when there are plenty of RPG Kickstarters which delivered on their promises. The repeated message from the Dwimmerdork Debacle is to avoid RPG Kickstarters and I don't believe that should be the message.

So let's talk about RPG (or other gaming related) Kickstarters that rocked. Let's talk about the guys and gals who delivered a great game, even it was a bit late. Let's talk about the people who kept up great communication and were honest with their patrons and who gave them something that validated the patronage model.

So who are the RPG Kickstarter heroes?
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Black Vulmea on September 11, 2013, 02:51:11 AM
I fucking love my random dungeon generator poster map (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2040314005/random-dungeon-generator-as-a-dungeon-map)!
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: DKChannelBoredom on September 11, 2013, 03:13:53 AM
Graham Walmsley delivered great (and on time?) with Stealing Cthulhu - a fantastic tool for kicking new energy and ideas into Cthulhu rpgs.

And even though it came rather f*cking late, I must give it to James Raggi and Vincent Baker, that Seclusium of Orphone of the Three Visions is a great book. And as it went from a suggested 32-page softcover to a 160 page hardcover I can forgive the lateness. This time. In general I think that KS-projects should just strive to deliver what they promised on time, instead of way late and bigger/expanded.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: That Guy on September 11, 2013, 03:20:13 AM
Here's a couple standouts:

Guide to Glorantha: This one is quite late, but very understandably. The reaction to the kickstarter was so great, they added enough content to require a second book. All that content had to be drawn, written, proof-read, edited, laid out, and that takes time. In the meantime, they've sent out the full text of the guide (repeatedly, as they've added new content), many of the maps, and several pieces of art. I don't have the physical product yet, but based on the PDFs this is already my favourite RPG release of the year.

Spears of the Dawn: Kevin Crawford delivered an amazing book and he did it early.  He did a couple things that were very smart. First, he had the text completed before the kickstarter even launched. Starting out a few steps from the finish line leaves much less time for something to go wrong. Second, he used OneBookShelf for fulfillment. Many of the RPG publishers that wound up stepping on their own dicks after the kickstarter did it during fulfillment.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: TristramEvans on September 11, 2013, 05:03:00 AM
Reaper Bones! Holy mother of god Reaper Bones!

(http://geek-news.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/geek/2012/08/ReaperMinisSet.png)


Loved these guys since I used to order the black and white Ral Partha catalogues in the 80s. Their bones kickstarters are amazing. Want populate an entire megadungeon for under 200 and get figures better looking than Games Workshop's? Goddamn mother-frelling Reaper kickstarters. There's another on right now iirc.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: selfdeleteduser00001 on September 11, 2013, 05:29:05 AM
Link?

I feel the obvious one is FATE.

The Traveller one delivered but there is a lot of doubt about the quality of what was delivered, but hey.. Mark Miller did what he said, and you can't complain about the quantity.

Robin Laws did a Dramascape one that delivered, although I am 'meh' about the game, it's lovely and met all it's targets.

Guide to Glorantha will be awesome, I game with the cartgrapher and the output is vast and scarily wonderful.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on September 11, 2013, 05:34:51 AM
Spears of the Dawn, hands down. In time and everything (including artwork and layout templates!!!) put under an open license? Crazy, just crazy.

Tenra Bansho Zero and Golden Sky Stories. Great communication and updates, awesome physical product. (I have not the faintest doubt that GSS will be a great physical book when it becomes available.)
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: TristramEvans on September 11, 2013, 05:54:50 AM
Quote from: tzunder;690193Link?

Looks like I was wrong, new one was announced at Gencon on Aug 16th and is supposed to happen "in the fall" sometime, so prob in the next 6 weeks. Highly recommend it.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: jadrax on September 11, 2013, 06:14:38 AM
I was pretty happy with the Blacksand Kickstarter, so happy in fact I went ahead and contributed to Maelstrom Doomsday.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Melan on September 11, 2013, 06:53:37 AM
Yeah, Spears of the Dawn had a realistic plan, good communication through the process, and delivered a kickass product in a timely fashion. Money well spent.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: JRT on September 11, 2013, 07:14:33 AM
I would think Numenera would be listed here as one that rocked.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: flyerfan1991 on September 11, 2013, 07:22:03 AM
Does Order of the Stick count?
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Daddy Warpig on September 11, 2013, 07:22:11 AM
FATE ramped up a lot in scope, thanks to stretch goals, but had realistic deadlines on each of those, and has delivered. Very well done.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Ladybird on September 11, 2013, 08:24:33 AM
You can totally rely on Kevin Crawford to deliver - Spears of the Dawn to start with. The Tenra Bansho Zero kickstarter has delivered, Golden Sky Stories is going well, and Graham Bottley can be trusted.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Nicephorus on September 11, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
Spears of Dawn flew under my radar.  I'll have to pick it up at some point.
 
Reaper Bones and Fate are both awesome.  I did the pdf option for Fate and got a ton of content for $10.
 
Wicked Fantasy by John Wick and Gillian Fraser came out on time, is professionally done and 300 pages of good content.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2006204732/wicked-fantasy
 
I really enjoy my DungeonMorph dice and cards by Inkwell Ideas - the guy who makes Hexographer and a bunch of other cool mapping tools.  Delivery was a bit slow but he communicated constantly so there was never any doubt that he would deliver.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inkwellideas/dungeonmorph-dice-dungeon-geomorphs
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: jcfiala on September 11, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
It's hard to not just repeat what everyone else said, but let's see.

- 2009 One Page Dungeon Codex - I really like this book.  One page dungeons are neat to review even if just for ideas, and having a bunch of them in a book is neat.
- Gaming Paper Adventures, Gaming Paper sequel - The Gaming paper folks provide their paper, graph ruled, with a dungeon printed on them - one side with rooms, the other with rooms and furniture.
- Do: Pilgrims of the Flying Temple.  Probably not your cup of tea if you hang out here, but a lovely book.
- Astonishing Swordsman & Sorcerers of Hyperborea
- The Sense of the Slight of Hand Man - it was a bit late, but it's also bigger than originally expected, and although I haven't gotten around to reading it yet I'm sure it's going to knock the socks off.
- Deadlands Noir - On time and lovely - Pinnacle has their stuff together.  I got a ton of pdfs for my $10.
- Savage Worlds Rome - Also by Pinnacle, and I think the pdf arrived in my hands a week after the kickstarter closed.
- Dungeon World - Yum.  You may not like the game, but the kickstarter went well.
- Tremulus - Also got this in a decent amount of time.  Still waiting on stretch goal goodness.
- Nova Praxis - Cyberpunk/post-singularity roleplaying using FATE.  Fantastic pdf.
- Ehdrigor - Also FATE, haven't read the pdf yet, but I've _got_ it.
- Arcana Rising - I think I just got the pdf for this, but I"ve been busy this week and haven't downloaded it.

So, there you go.  And that's not every rpg kickstarter I've done, either.  I seem to generally have a good hand at picking and backing decent ones... there's just a few that get comically off the tracks.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Lynn on September 11, 2013, 12:07:48 PM
The Lamentations of the Flame Princess hardcover Rules & Magic came out quite late but with an excellent presentation. Its mostly a fixed version of Grindhouse, with better graphics and firearms rules.

Nice touch - red fabric built in bookmark!
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Benoist on September 11, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea. The game was ready (written) the day the kickstarter was launched, the issue was production, to be able to have a box and two booklets and a map and dice inside and it worked great. The final product does justice to the game. The communication was great, there was diligence and hard work going into it... and it reached my doorstep unscathed.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: J.L. Duncan on September 11, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Robotech RPG Tactics looks pretty good.

The funding was around: $1.5 million; not too shabby.

I was wondering if this makes it the highest funded tabletop game?

Anyone?
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: JRT on September 11, 2013, 01:26:54 PM
You can easily see the most funded games from this link.

http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/games/most-funded

This includes computer and board games as well, but the list starts with the highest funded and then goes down--I think it lists the top 100 funded items.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Benoist on September 11, 2013, 01:41:48 PM
It's bizarre: I wouldn't consider the kickstarters that rocked the most to be automatically the ones that funded the most. For me, when you're asking me whether a kickstarter "rocked", I'm thinking of the overall experience, the communication, the bang for the buck, the production values, the timing of reception, all these sorts of things. I think raising too much money can spoil a kickstarter and get to one's head. I mean, it's obviously great for the people who raised the money, at first, at least, by validating your ego or whatnot, but it's not necessarily a sign of quality, for me. It basically raises the stakes and expectations across the board, not necessarily in a good way.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: J Arcane on September 11, 2013, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: jcfiala- Arcana Rising - I think I just got the pdf for this, but I"ve been busy this week and haven't downloaded it.
I just sent out the playtest draft this week, yeah. It's still rough, but so far feedback has been good and helpful.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Justin Alexander on September 11, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;690180So who are the RPG Kickstarter heroes?

Eclipse Phase: Transhuman: Delivered right on time. Exactly the type of great supplement with high production values you'd expect from Posthuman Studios.

Numenera: The extras haven't delivered yet, but everything so far has been right on time. The fact that I've been getting a dollop of awesome in my e-mail inbox every couple of weeks is simply delightful. And Cook was clearly able to take the extra money from his astounding Kickstarter success and pump it into both fantastically high production values and a long-term plan for providing support for the game.

Reaper Bones: I have no idea what I'm going to do with all these miniatures, but they're awesome.

Dungeon-a-Day: A bit of a disappointment when it comes to the stretch goals (which are way behind schedule), but I backed it for access to the website and the wealth of material it contained. I'm very satisfied.

Monster Stock Art & Minis: Great art. Great price.

Order of the Stick: Another fabulous bargain. Some of the bonuses and stretch goals have fallen behind schedule, but the actual books were speedily delivered and this is another project where the constant drip of extra awesome over the long-term provides a constant reinforcement of my deep satisfaction with the project.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: JRT on September 11, 2013, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: Benoist;690296It's bizarre: I wouldn't consider the kickstarters that rocked the most to be automatically the ones that funded the most.

I don't think anybody said that at all.  Somebody asked which RPG KS made the most money and I provided a link.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Mistwell on September 11, 2013, 02:59:13 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;690181I fucking love my random dungeon generator poster map (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2040314005/random-dungeon-generator-as-a-dungeon-map)!

I am addicted to the free online game (http://blogofholding.com/dungeonrobber/) version of it and it makes me want to buy the poster.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Ladybird on September 11, 2013, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Benoist;690296It's bizarre: I wouldn't consider the kickstarters that rocked the most to be automatically the ones that funded the most.

Yeah; the amount of money is interesting as a high score, but the only question that matters is "did you hit 100%?". As much as people like to harp on that "kickstarter is not a store", every pound raised on kickstarter funds come with obligations, it's not just a sudden large payday for a lucky developer with some nostalgia behind them.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: JRT on September 11, 2013, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Ladybird;690336Yeah; the amount of money is interesting as a high score, but the only question that matters is "did you hit 100%?". As much as people like to harp on that "kickstarter is not a store", every pound raised on kickstarter funds come with obligations, it's not just a sudden large payday for a lucky developer with some nostalgia behind them.

True, I see a few there that are likely to be problematic--for Computer Games, I see trouble for both Yogventures and Homestuck Adventure Game, since in those cases guys who never made games themselves are gonna have a lot of trials ahead.

It is however a pretty good gauge to see what KS are more popular.

I notice that most of the Tabletop ones that did big are mostly existing properties.  CoC, Exalted, etc.  Out of the Tabletop RPGs I think Numenera is the highest one done based on the name or reputation of the author alone rather than a pre-existing concept that had its own popularity.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Piestrio on September 11, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
I was very pleased with Starships and Spacemen.

Good book with some nifty extras delivered on time.

It was indiegogo but whatever.

Also FATE core.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Psychman on September 11, 2013, 04:44:02 PM
Another Indiegogo one, but OpenQuest 2 has just distributed the pdfs and I'm expecting my actual book next month.  d101 games are doing some supplements including a free rules intro "OpenQuest Basics" off the back of the campaign.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: flyerfan1991 on September 11, 2013, 05:51:42 PM
Outside of Order of the Stick, which I missed, the one I've been most impressed with was FATE Core.  They've delivered what they said they'd deliver and they've kept everyone appraised of the situation.

I've also liked Triple Ace's Hellfrost - Land of Fire setting.  They were a bit hamstrung with the shipment coming to them via a cargo ship, but that's wasn't something they could control once the ship left the dock.  But the print run was very professional and I've enjoyed reading the setting material.

Once Lone Wolf's RealmWorks software is released, that'll probably join the other two.  I realize that the were able to hire some extra programmers and they had more eyes looking at the architecture that they had to redo things for the long term.  That they were honest about it is fine with me, as I'm an ex-coder myself.  Better to get it done right rather than rush it out and then have to fix it later.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: Alathon on September 11, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
Not a tabletop RPG, but the Shadowrun Returns (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns) computer RPG delivered pretty much what I was expecting, an enjoyable framework with a decent starting adventure.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: YourSwordisMine on September 12, 2013, 12:24:50 AM
I've been pretty happy with the ACK Players Companion. Great book, so very glad I funded it.

ICONS: Great Power was a welcome addition to ICONS.

Monster Hunter International RPG. I spent a lot on this kickstart, more than I probably should have. But, I love my Unit Patches and Dice (I even got the ammo clip pouch dice bag!).

We'll see how awesome Robotech RPG Tactics, M&M 10th Anniversary, Tunnels & Trolls Delux, ACK Domains at War, and Mekton Zero are once I have them in hand.

The most I have ever spent on a Kickstarter was Robotech RPG Tactics... I've got 350+ minis coming my way when it launches...


I wish I'd known there was a Kickstart for a Hardback RQ6, and Space 1889 when I actually had the money. Really sad I missed out on both, moreso the latter since Space 1889 is one of my all time favorite RPGs and settings. Finally getting the Ubiquity edition from Germany is awesome! Just wish I could have funded it.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: J.L. Duncan on September 12, 2013, 02:56:56 AM
Quote from: JRT;690291You can easily see the most funded games from this link.

http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/games/most-funded

This includes computer and board games as well, but the list starts with the highest funded and then goes down--I think it lists the top 100 funded items.

Thanks for the link!
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: vytzka on September 12, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
Tenra Bansho Zero and Golden Sky Stories, as mentioned above.

OVA could be going a bit faster or send updates more often but I love the way they organized the kickstarter and have high hopes for it.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: languagegeek on September 12, 2013, 01:57:25 PM
The Hellas and Conspiracy X Kickstarters were good to me. As was Early Dark, Esteren, Fate of the Norns, Magicians, Spears of the dawn, openquest2 , barrowmaze2, starships and spacemen...

Crowdfunding has been a very exciting way to support the kinds of products I'm interested in and I'll certainly back more. I am interested to see when someone will come up with a good solution to the spiraling shipping costs problem.

Yeah, there are a few projects taking longer than they should, but I pledge to projects with the understanding that they'll realistically be later than planned.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: RPGPundit on September 15, 2013, 02:41:06 AM
I kind of cringe at the thought of what such a hugely successful kickstarter is going to do to Kevin Siemieda's mind.
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: vytzka on September 16, 2013, 02:29:09 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;691256I kind of cringe at the thought of what such a hugely successful kickstarter is going to do to Kevin Siemieda's mind.

Maybe he can finally buy a computer to do layout on?
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: YourSwordisMine on September 16, 2013, 07:19:49 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;691256I kind of cringe at the thought of what such a hugely successful kickstarter is going to do to Kevin Siemieda's mind.

No more worse than what the Ogre kickstarter did for Steve Jacksons already morbidly gross obese ego...
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: flyerfan1991 on September 16, 2013, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;691433No more worse than what the Ogre kickstarter did for Steve Jacksons already morbidly gross obese ego...

Oh great.  I can't wash THAT one out of my mind.  

I guess this'll have to do instead:

(http://www.movoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/23.gif)
Title: RPG Kickstarters that rocked!!!
Post by: daniel_ream on September 16, 2013, 10:56:03 AM
Warbirds delivered on time and with competently executed chrome.

Neither RQ6 nor Lords of Gossamer and Shadow have shipped yet, but they're on track and the communication from the developers has been exemplary.  At this point, if they're delayed it will clearly be due to exigent circumstances.