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Question: how does this fit with Atlantis 2nd Age and the Arcanum 30th? They're all basically the same game, same original crew, all owned by different entities. Does it all work without issue (as I would expect)?

Quote from: Brad on December 06, 2024, 06:33:48 PMQuestion: how does this fit with Atlantis 2nd Age and the Arcanum 30th? They're all basically the same game, same original crew, all owned by different entities. Does it all work without issue (as I would expect)?

Tal/Omni is really hasn't changed much since 4E.

I missed dynamic and curvaceous art. I didn't expect much from such an artistically fallen age. It's still reminiscent of 2010s MtG and that tightened portrait composition and washed out values with indistinct backgrounds... But it's better. Could be a function of computer art tools tempting over-rendering on portraiture and losing sight of the rest of the composition.

Eh, don't mind me. I'm just nostalgic for older art.

I like the art. The game looks nice at least. I have the 2nd edition somewhere but havent played it. Mainly because i have more games i want to play than i have time. A funny anecdote, i always wrote the title as Tallatlanta to the point my old phone auto-suggests that when i try to write Talislanta.

Quote from: Brad on December 06, 2024, 06:33:48 PMQuestion: how does this fit with Atlantis 2nd Age and the Arcanum 30th? They're all basically the same game, same original crew, all owned by different entities. Does it all work without issue (as I would expect)?

similar system, but completely different settings.  Atlantis is a sword and sorcery Conan type game.
Arcanum is fairly standard fantasy.
Tal is weird fantasy.

I've never heard of this game but that artwork is sick!

Still no elves right? I rember that as big selling point in the old Dragon ads.

Quote from: remial on December 08, 2024, 08:34:24 AMsimilar system, but completely different settings.  Atlantis is a sword and sorcery Conan type game.
Arcanum is fairly standard fantasy.
Tal is weird fantasy.

Yeah, I have all the games, I was referring specifically to the newest versions of each. I got rid of all my Talislanta stuff except the first two editions; I was not a fan of the Savage Lands version nearly as much as the older ones.

Quote from: Brad on December 06, 2024, 06:33:48 PMQuestion: how does this fit with Atlantis 2nd Age and the Arcanum 30th? They're all basically the same game, same original crew, all owned by different entities. Does it all work without issue (as I would expect)?

Mechanically, they're 99% compatible. They all use the same Action Table, same stats. Only differences might be Skill Selection which is no big deal. Magic will be different, but all Talislanta-derived magic systems can be plug-n-play as desired. You can even have all of them working at the same time.

In terms of creators - they're all inter-related teams. Jerry Grayson is the owner and publisher of Khepera Publishing  which made Atlantis the 2nd Age inspired completely from the original Bard Games' Arcanum RPG from the early 80's, which was created by Steve Sechi (and others).

Khepera Publishing released Atlantis: The 2nd Age, which used the Talislanta mechanics (Called the Omni System). The second edition of the Atlantis game would use the Khepera house-version of the Omni System called the Omega System which is a slightly modified version of the Talislanta system, and is still 99% backwards compatible.

In terms of setting - Atlantis and Talislanta are different settings, although there are elements that are easter-eggs that suggest they're connected. Talislanta has a lot of setting material that talks about interdimensional and even possible time-travel. It's a world that has been ravaged by magical chaos that has warped the world and its inhabitants massively (and in some cases continues to do so). One of those curiosities is the Ariane race, which appears in Atlantis as well as Talislanta.

Could you take your Talislanta/Atlantis characters and drop them in each other's settings? Absolutely. But they are different settings. While Atlantis is more S&S, Talislanta can *very much* be S&S depending on which region of the world you're playing in.

Quote from: Nobleshield on December 08, 2024, 09:47:25 AMI've never heard of this game but that artwork is sick!

Avail yourself of all the previous editions.

http://talislanta.com/talislanta-library

It is a superb system, and a very cool setting.

Quote from: Exploderwizard on December 08, 2024, 10:08:23 AMStill no elves right? I rember that as big selling point in the old Dragon ads.

Still no elves. Or humans. Or dwarves. But there are "gnomes".

Although there are analogs that kinda fit those "schticks" depending on how you like your non-human races served up.

Quote from: tenbones on December 09, 2024, 10:14:51 AM

Quote from: Exploderwizard on December 08, 2024, 10:08:23 AMStill no elves right? I rember that as big selling point in the old Dragon ads.

Still no elves. Or humans. Or dwarves. But there are "gnomes".

Although there are analogs that kinda fit those "schticks" depending on how you like your non-human races served up.

nope, no elves.  lots of stuff that LOOKS like elves tho. Basically back before the magic collapsed, pretty much everyone could shapeshift and take on any coloration they wanted, and these changes would breed true. So you have a LOT of variation in PC options.

I'm waiting on my copies of the hardcopies arriving.

Quote from: tenbones on December 09, 2024, 10:11:11 AMCould you take your Talislanta/Atlantis characters and drop them in each other's settings? Absolutely. But they are different settings. While Atlantis is more S&S, Talislanta can *very much* be S&S depending on which region of the world you're playing in.

Okay, I have played Tal a few times (literally 30 years ago at this point) so a question to see if I actually understand the setting...it's like a post-apocalyptic world ravaged by magic, so about as close to what D&D was trying to do as possible, maybe? It always reminded me of a cross between Yor and Krull, but I dunno, I could be totally wrong. Atlantis is obviously the best Conan RPG, though.

Now, that looks like a leviathan of books and material. I have always been curious about Talislanta, it's getting to hard to resist temptation.