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[RIFTS: Savage Worlds] Kickstarter launches April 26

Started by The Butcher, April 12, 2016, 09:00:49 PM

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jcfiala

Quote from: Jetstream;896834I'm getting the hardcovers. Fuck it. In for a penny, in for a pound, all that nonsense.

Yeah - I'm ramping severely down on kickstarters due to my wife's medical woes, but I've been anticipating this for so long I put the money down anyway.  (Although not for the hardcovers.)

The only other kickstarter I'm active in is James Ernest's Tak, which is an abstract board game based on some fantasy novel I haven't heard of. (And even there I'm just getting the book, planning on grabbing a bunch of legos for pieces.)

After this, I'm planning on going quiet on Kickstarter for a while.
 

Ulairi

My wife broke her foot two weeks ago and last Friday had surgery on said foot so I really cannot afford the KickStarter but I'm a huge Rifts fan that I'm going to do it anyway. Just terrible timing. I'm off Kickstarters for a while. I don't like pay all this money up front and wait 6 months to get your product (or almost a year in the case of DCC RPG 4th Printing).

Krimson

Quote from: The Butcher;896980...even Canada is getting charged like $50.

Yeah maybe the PDF option is the way to go. I can always get stuff printed next Lulu sale.
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse \'yiff factor\' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

jcfiala

Quote from: Ulairi;897060My wife broke her foot two weeks ago and last Friday had surgery on said foot so I really cannot afford the KickStarter but I'm a huge Rifts fan that I'm going to do it anyway. Just terrible timing. I'm off Kickstarters for a while. I don't like pay all this money up front and wait 6 months to get your product (or almost a year in the case of DCC RPG 4th Printing).

Oooh, I was in on that 4th printing too.  At least we've got the pdf, although it's a bit busy for my tablet to easily read it. :)
 

Ulairi

Quote from: jcfiala;897073Oooh, I was in on that 4th printing too.  At least we've got the pdf, although it's a bit busy for my tablet to easily read it. :)

I hate reference books as PDFs. I need physical paper.

HMWHC

#140
Quote from: The Butcher;896980It's all bad, even Canada is getting charged like $50.

I msg'd them about the shipping costs and have heard nothing back. Bit disappointed by that, as there is no way it costs $50 bucks to ship to Canada from the States, or anywhere else in the world when shipping to the USA is 1/3rd that price.

It smacks of price gouging via shipping (the way the majority of sellers on ebay do [scumbags set an items price dirt cheap to get you to buy it then charge you an arm and a leg for shipping])
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

Shawn Merrow

Quote from: Gwarh;897224I msg'd them about the shipping costs and have heard nothing back. Bit disappointed by that, as there is no way it costs $50 bucks to ship to Canada from the States, or anywhere else in the world when shipping to the USA is 1/3rd that price.

It smacks of price gouging via shipping (the way the majority of sellers on ebay do [scumbags set an items price dirt cheap to get you to buy it then charge you an arm and a leg for shipping])

Yes, its that expensive. A big company like Amazon can eat a lot of the S&H prices. There have been Kickstarters that have killed themselves by trying to eat the S&H. I don't ship internationally often but every time the prices kill me.

Canada 5lb package.


Australia 5lb package.

Ratman_tf

So how the fuck is Savage Worlds as a system? As a Rifts fan, I'm interested, but the system sounds too rules lite for me.

I'd probably be happy with a Rifts that's just using a streamlined and cleaned up Palladium system. So that might give you an idea of how crunchy I like my rules.
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Omega

Quote from: Ratman_tf;897302So how the fuck is Savage Worlds as a system? As a Rifts fan, I'm interested, but the system sounds too rules lite for me.

I'd probably be happy with a Rifts that's just using a streamlined and cleaned up Palladium system. So that might give you an idea of how crunchy I like my rules.

Been wondering this too. Was not impressed with SW Star Frontiers at all.

As for Rifts. Its actually a remarkably rules light system. Combat and Skill and not much else. Roll a d20 to hit and roll a percentile to succeed a skill. 95% of Rifts is setting, OCCs/RCCs, equipment and spells/powers.

HMWHC

I did a quick search on rates from New York New York to my home city of Edmonton Canada and came up with the below rates. Basically 1/2 the cost in USD (inface a smidge less than half) of what the Rifts Kickstarter is charging for shipping to Canada.

I understand that shipping product isn't cheap but when I can get shipping to and from the same loc for 50% less than what the Kickstarter is charging, I won't pretend to be sympathetic and understanding with the publisher.

The cost and profit should be built into the kickstarter price, not tacked on via shipping costs. Thats like having a price tag on a pair pants at the rack say one thing, then your charged a handling fee at the cash register. It makes the project look more appealing for the initial purchase, then the extra costs come after you've made the emotional comitment to buy the product.

Caveat Emptor I know I know, but as a customer I am also seeking a better deal on shipping.


//www.canadapost.ca
Edmonton Alberta to New York
5lb box
10x12x6
$28.89 CDN = $22.58 USD

//www.usps.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
$8162 CDN = $63.75 USD

//www.fedex.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
5 day shipping rate
$30.52 CDN = $23.84 USD

//www.purolator.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
Ground/Slow rate
$31.51 CDN = $24.61 USD

//www.ups.com
Cant get rates without creating an account and signing in.
Should be competitive rates with other private shipping companies
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

HMWHC

Wait a second, there was a Savage Worlds Star Frontiers Kickstarter ?!??!!?!
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

HMWHC

Quote from: Shawn Merrow;897284Yes, its that expensive. A big company like Amazon can eat a lot of the S&H prices. There have been Kickstarters that have killed themselves by trying to eat the S&H. I don't ship internationally often but every time the prices kill me.

I did a quick search on rates from New York New York to my home city of Edmonton Canada and came up with the below rates. Basically 1/2 the cost in USD (inface a smidge less than half) of what the Rifts Kickstarter is charging for shipping to Canada.

I understand that shipping product isn't cheap but when I can get shipping to and from the same loc for 50% less than what the Kickstarter is charging, I won't pretend to be sympathetic and understanding with the publisher.

The cost and profit should be built into the kickstarter price, not tacked on via shipping costs. Thats like having a price tag on a pair pants at the rack say one thing, then your charged a handling fee at the cash register. It makes the project look more appealing for the initial purchase, then the extra costs come after you've made the emotional comitment to buy the product.

Caveat Emptor I know I know, but as a customer I am also seeking a better deal on shipping.


//www.canadapost.ca
Edmonton Alberta to New York
5lb box
10x12x6
$28.89 CDN = $22.58 USD

//www.usps.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
$8162 CDN = $63.75 USD

//www.fedex.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
5 day shipping rate
$30.52 CDN = $23.84 USD

//www.purolator.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
Ground/Slow rate
$31.51 CDN = $24.61 USD

//www.ups.com
Cant get rates without creating an account and signing in.
Should be competitive rates with other private shipping companies
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

HMWHC

Quote from: Shawn Merrow;897284Yes, its that expensive. A big company like Amazon can eat a lot of the S&H prices. There have been Kickstarters that have killed themselves by trying to eat the S&H. I don't ship internationally often but every time the prices kill me.

I did a quick search on rates from New York New York to my home city of Edmonton Canada and came up with the below rates. Basically 1/2 the cost in USD (inface a smidge less than half) of what the Rifts Kickstarter is charging for shipping to Canada.

I understand that shipping product isn't cheap but when I can get shipping to and from the same loc for 50% less than what the Kickstarter is charging, I won't pretend to be sympathetic and understanding with the publisher.

The cost and profit should be built into the kickstarter price, not tacked on via shipping costs. Thats like having a price tag on a pair pants at the rack say one thing, then your charged a handling fee at the cash register. It makes the project look more appealing for the initial purchase, then the extra costs come after you've made the emotional comitment to buy the product.

Caveat Emptor I know I know, but as a customer I am also seeking a better deal on shipping.


//www.canadapost.ca
Edmonton Alberta to New York
5lb box
10x12x6
$28.89 CDN = $22.58 USD

//www.usps.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
$8162 CDN = $63.75 USD

//www.fedex.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
5 day shipping rate
$30.52 CDN = $23.84 USD

//www.purolator.com
New York to Edmonton Alberta
5lb box
10x12x6
Ground/Slow rate
$31.51 CDN = $24.61 USD

//www.ups.com
Cant get rates without creating an account and signing in.
Should be competitive rates with other private shipping companies
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

HMWHC

Quote from: Omega;897336Been wondering this too. Was not impressed with SW Star Frontiers at all.

As for Rifts. Its actually a remarkably rules light system. Combat and Skill and not much else. Roll a d20 to hit and roll a percentile to succeed a skill. 95% of Rifts is setting, OCCs/RCCs, equipment and spells/powers.

WAIT A SECOND!!!

There was a Savage Worlds Kickstarter?!??!!?
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

Brand55

Quote from: Gwarh;897369WAIT A SECOND!!!

There was a Savage Worlds Kickstarter?!??!!?
If I had to guess, I'd say he's talking about The Last Parsec as it's the closest sci-fi setting SW has to Star Frontiers. The Kickstarter shipped out books about a year ago.