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Reddit: Racism in D&D

Started by ArrozConLeche, June 09, 2020, 08:50:54 AM

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Cloyer Bulse

QuoteBecause of current events, the topic of racism is all I have been thinking about lately...

Emphasis added.

Whoever wrote this probably suffers from depression. It is common place for people to self-medicate mental illness by latching on to political movements and ideologies, which in anthropology are called cults of desperation. I know a number of people who have suddenly become maniacally (literally, as they are bi-polar) obsessed with "black lives matter".

Valatar

Quote from: RPGPundit;1133320I love how in the RPGnet version of this post they slander me as a "quasi-white supremacist" and in the same page bemoan the fact that "wizards has never hired Latinos" (they misspell it the anglicized "latinx", of course), not recognizing that I was a Latino hire.

Oh no sir, like all Latinos you are a magical quantum entity.  A Latino is only a minority until they do something unpopular, at which moment they become and always have been white.

ArrozConLeche

Quote from: Valatar;1133404Oh no sir, like all Latinos you are a magical quantum entity.  A Latino is only a minority until they do something unpopular, at which moment they become and always have been white.

This. It's why I specially dislike white liberals. It has not happened to me directly, but more than one time I've seen some asshole SJW, White-Savior wannabe tell a Latin@, "You look  pretty light skinned to me" when they dare challenge something they said.  Funny, most of the time we ain't White enough, except when it's convenient. It's the Schrodinger's Latin@ syndrome.

jhkim

Quote from: RPGPundit;1133320I love how in the RPGnet version of this post they slander me as a "quasi-white supremacist" and in the same page bemoan the fact that "wizards has never hired Latinos" (they misspell it the anglicized "latinx", of course), not recognizing that I was a Latino hire.
Huh. I'll confess, I hadn't thought of you as Latino. I had thought that you were a white Canadian who had moved to Uruguay, but that you weren't Latino by background. I realize you don't talk about yourself much, Pundit, and this surprised me a little.

For example, my ex-father-in-law grew up in Venezuela, but he doesn't consider himself Latino. (His father was from New England and worked for the oil company there.)

GeekyBugle

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1133408This. It's why I specially dislike white liberals. It has not happened to me directly, but more than one time I've seen some asshole SJW, White-Savior wannabe tell a Latin@, "You look  pretty light skinned to me" when they dare challenge something they said.  Funny, most of the time we ain't White enough, except when it's convenient. It's the Schrodinger's Latin@ syndrome.

To the AltWight we're not white enough
To the Ctrl-Left we're too white (if we dare disagree with them)

I think both are too obsessed with race not to be REAL racists.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#35
Quote from: jhkim;1133428Huh. I'll confess, I hadn't thought of you as Latino. I had thought that you were a white Canadian who had moved to Uruguay, but that you weren't Latino by background. I realize you don't talk about yourself much, Pundit, and this surprised me a little.

For example, my ex-father-in-law grew up in Venezuela, but he doesn't consider himself Latino. (His father was from New England and worked for the oil company there.)

Well, since Latino isn't a race nor an ethnicity but a culture (sort of), I say someone born and bred in México from foreign parents can (and many times is) more of a Latino than someone born of Latino parents in the USA.

Edited to add:

That being said, Pundit speaks perfect Spanish, which shows that he learned while in Canada, he knows how Latinos think and feel about lots of issues and shares many of those views. And he can be seen in his vids partaking of some of those cultural landmarks.

If you still doubt it go take a look at my YT channel, there's a vid where he and I discuss stuff in the TTRPG hobby in Spanish.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

jhkim

Quote from: jhkimHuh. I'll confess, I hadn't thought of you as Latino. I had thought that you were a white Canadian who had moved to Uruguay, but that you weren't Latino by background. I realize you don't talk about yourself much, Pundit, and this surprised me a little.

For example, my ex-father-in-law grew up in Venezuela, but he doesn't consider himself Latino. (His father was from New England and worked for the oil company there.)
Quote from: GeekyBugle;1133443Well, since Latino isn't a race nor an ethnicity but a culture (sort of), I say someone born and bred in México from foreign parents can (and many times is) more of a Latino than someone born of Latino parents in the USA.

Edited to add:

That being said, Pundit speaks perfect Spanish, which shows that he learned while in Canada, he knows how Latinos think and feel about lots of issues and shares many of those views. And he can be seen in his vids partaking of some of those cultural landmarks.
I don't think it's useful to talk about who's more Latino than who. I would agree that someone born and raised in Mexico from foreign parents *can be* Latino.

But, for example, my ex-father-in-law speaks perfect Spanish, and understands about many Latino issues, but neither he nor I would call him Latino. He grew up with other American kids in an oil company enclave in Venezuela, and his family are all American.

I don't know what Pundit's background is - I just was surprised to learn that he considered himself Latino, since that hadn't been my impression of him previously.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: jhkim;1133462I don't think it's useful to talk about who's more Latino than who. I would agree that someone born and raised in Mexico from foreign parents *can be* Latino.

But, for example, my ex-father-in-law speaks perfect Spanish, and understands about many Latino issues, but neither he nor I would call him Latino. He grew up with other American kids in an oil company enclave in Venezuela, and his family are all American.

I don't know what Pundit's background is - I just was surprised to learn that he considered himself Latino, since that hadn't been my impression of him previously.

I do find talking about who IS or isn't Latino very useful, since many gringos are currently trying to speak for us and to impose on us their woke culture. Sorry, your last name doesn't make you Latino, neither does your skin color.

In case of doubt, if you use unironically "Latinx" chances are you're not a Latino.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Ghostmaker

But are the Latino girls hot and crazy like they say? :D

Brad

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1133470But are the Latino girls hot and crazy like they say? :D

Latino
Girl

Son, I got some bad news...haha

In all seriousness, I dated a few of them, and the stereotypes are real. Never a dull moment, the crazy is exponentially increased based on the hotness, but that's pretty much every girl I think.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Brad;1133471Latino
Girl

Son, I got some bad news...haha

In all seriousness, I dated a few of them, and the stereotypes are real. Never a dull moment, the crazy is exponentially increased based on the hotness, but that's pretty much every girl I think.

Akchually....

Ghostmaker wrote it correctly, if he had written Latina Girl then he would be wrong. Because Latina is almost 100% of the time only about females.

I think the Latinas you dated are like that because of your culture and schools.

Not that there aren't any crazies here, but not more prevalent than you would expect from any population.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

ArrozConLeche

#41
No more crazy or hot than other chicks, lol. You could make an argument that as a general population they might proyect a more conservative image, but that is changing. This happened in Mexico not too long ago (GeekyBugle might have more to say). In the middle of a feminist protest, she began this performance dance:

[video=youtube;Tg6gwRTGMvg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg6gwRTGMvg[/youtube]

Of course, this parody felt like a natural Latin@ response, because I've noticed we tend to laugh so we don't have to cry (Ruben Blades anyone?). The man is dancing for all those dudes whose girlfriends prevent from going out to drink with their buddies:

[video=youtube;6MtCvf7ih8o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MtCvf7ih8o[/youtube]

Opaopajr

That was new style voguing ending with a death drop & hair twirl, by the way. (She should have been way lower for a proper duck walk however. But at least she tried.) The guy's interpretation added an ass shimmy at the end. :) And now you know!
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
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-- talysman

GeekyBugle

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1133582No more crazy or hot than other chicks, lol. You could make an argument that as a general population they might proyect a more conservative image, but that is changing. This happened in Mexico not too long ago (GeekyBugle might have more to say). In the middle of a feminist protest, she began this performance dance:

[video=youtube;Tg6gwRTGMvg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg6gwRTGMvg[/youtube]

Of course, this parody felt like a natural Latin@ response, because I've noticed we tend to laugh so we don't have to cry (Ruben Blades anyone?). The man is dancing for all those dudes whose girlfriends prevent from going out to drink with their buddies:

[video=youtube;6MtCvf7ih8o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MtCvf7ih8o[/youtube]

México is a weird place, our biggest city and capital (México City) is rapidly transforming into some imitation of NYC, LA, Seattle, etc. But, even here most people are slightly left of center or right of center.

While the rest of the country is very conservative, and you can find women dressed and dancing in a sexual manner at parties and clubs, hell you could be the BF, and still get exactly zero horizontal mambo afterwards. They like to turn on the water heater and not getting in the shower (best translation I could come up of a Mexican saying).
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

tenbones

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1133467I do find talking about who IS or isn't Latino very useful, since many gringos are currently trying to speak for us and to impose on us their woke culture. Sorry, your last name doesn't make you Latino, neither does your skin color.

In case of doubt, if you use unironically "Latinx" chances are you're not a Latino.

Tell me about it...

I'm part Filipino, grew up there, I'm half Cajun on my dad's side. Filipinos are like the Mexicans of Asia, we all have Spanish-oid surnames (they scoured native language and culture as best they could over 350-years of enslaving them), we have a LOT of Spanish DNA delivered by the usual means in times of conquest. But to a lot of "Fancy Asians" (Koreans, Japanese, Chinese) and some "Jungle Asians" (Asians that aren't 'Fancy Asians'), Filipinos are not "Asian enough", they call us Islanders. Interestingly, islander cultures think Filipinos are not islanders (despite the fact we literally live on thousands of islands in the Pacific), but I chalk it up to cultural differences.

Whereas I have some good friends that were born in Mexico city, who *despise* being called Mexican, as he considers himself Spanish. He loves to remind people his last name is Marques with an "S" not a "Z". While my Mexican friends love to give him shit about it and call him out on it all the time. My Portuguese friend in my crowd does the same thing - my Mexican friends tease him about being Mexican (he's not - they're just fucking with him) but he does the whole "Fernandes-with-an-S-not-Z" thing.

so for me, as a half-Cajun-Asian, I just laugh/scoff at the whole thing. I'm at ease in nearly any culture - mainly because I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about my appearance (which is a genetic monstrosity), but once they get to know me, that generally will swing their opinion. Even among the racist elements of my family and in-laws whom I've converted by actions and ideas, not appearances.

The whole thing with leftists trying to de-genderize language... is going to be a monumental (and idiotic) undertaking. It goes far beyond Latin cultures that gender-specify their language. This is just more social-engineering looking to create conflict for the purposes of thought-control.