Reaper Miniatures Kickstarter

beeber · September 05, 2012, 02:03:35 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;580081Dancey makes money (and has always made money) selling people Nothing, just ideas, ways of categorizing things, concepts, never anything actually tangible. Not dice, or minis or RPG books or anything other than notions.

At his best, those notions utterly changed gaming for the better, and helped understand what was good or bad about the hobby or industry at any given time. At its worst, you have "Fat Elvis" looking like a mockery of his former glory using the skills that once made him the intellectual giant of the industry to try to con people into giving money to a non-existent non-product.

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and folks like you keep him in the limelight by even acknowledging his opinions. seriously, just ignore the idiot already.

Skywalker · September 05, 2012, 03:58:08 PM

I agree that Ryan Dancey has had a big impact on the industry. I am not convinced that most of them have been for the better though.

RPGPundit · September 06, 2012, 06:12:14 PM

The OGL alone was a monumental thing that more than balance out the sum total of any stupid ideas he might have had over the years.

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deadDMwalking · September 06, 2012, 07:08:33 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;580478The OGL alone was a monumental thing that more than balance out the sum total of any stupid ideas he might have had over the years.

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Agreed emphatically!

StormBringer · September 06, 2012, 09:08:12 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;580478The OGL alone was a monumental thing that more than balance out the sum total of any stupid ideas he might have had over the years.

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It's no secret that I am an advocate for Creative Commons in general, and for RPGs specifically. With the somewhat complicated Product Identity clause in the OGL and the overall 'legalese' of the document, what are the specifics of the OGL that make it better, in your view?

The Traveller · September 06, 2012, 09:12:30 PM

Quote from: VectorSigma;579831for my son to play with

Yuh-huh.

VectorSigma · September 06, 2012, 10:00:38 PM

Quote from: The Traveller;580561Yuh-huh.

Not making excuses, I'm a savvy Daddy.

He collects Transformers, too.

Justin Alexander · September 06, 2012, 11:18:15 PM

Quote from: StormBringer;580559It's no secret that I am an advocate for Creative Commons in general, and for RPGs specifically. With the somewhat complicated Product Identity clause in the OGL and the overall 'legalese' of the document, what are the specifics of the OGL that make it better, in your view?

The Product Identity clause makes it better.

StormBringer · September 07, 2012, 02:17:53 AM

Quote from: Justin Alexander;580587The Product Identity clause makes it better.

How is that different than "These items are copyright, 2012:"?

Imperator · September 07, 2012, 05:23:02 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;580478The OGL alone was a monumental thing that more than balance out the sum total of any stupid ideas he might have had over the years.

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I agree completely with this.

Skywalker · September 07, 2012, 06:55:55 AM

The OGL was certainly good for RPGing.

Caesar Slaad · September 07, 2012, 12:50:19 PM

While I may expound later on advantages (and drawbacks) of the PI clause, I think a major strength of the OGL goes beyond the utility of the license, and into what was released under it. Namely, D&D (or rather, its major constituent rules and metasetting elements.)

David Johansen · September 07, 2012, 10:22:53 PM

I love the OGL, it eventually fragmented the D&D fan base juggernaut and that just warms my heart.

Caesar Slaad · September 07, 2012, 11:56:07 PM

Quote from: David Johansen;580899I love the OGL, it eventually fragmented the D&D fan base juggernaut and that just warms my heart.

4e did the fragmenting.

The OGL just gave all the fragments the D&D that each of them wanted.

David Johansen · September 08, 2012, 12:11:44 AM

Castles and Crusades, True 20, and OSRIC came before 4e so I believe the OGL was primarily responsible.

But yes if the OGL was the wedge 4e was the hammer that drove it into the crack.

4e isn't a bad game. It's too far from D&D's roots for a lot of people but that doesn't make it a bad game. Though I've often said I think it would be a better game without the D&D legacies it carries.