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Real Stolen Valor

Started by M2A0, August 12, 2024, 04:26:51 AM

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Ratman_tf

Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on August 12, 2024, 07:59:53 PMDeleted to keep the thread on track.

I'm not sure this thread was ever on track.

Nope, it seems you guys don't know how to react when someone you hate, dislikes the same thing you do.

If it was a regular poster being outraged about Crawford stealing credit from Mearls this thread would be twice as long and you for sure would have got a good two minutes hate out of it.

I'm lost. Who am I supposed to hate, and what am I supposed to dislike here? I wouldn't want to get it wrong.
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M2A0

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on August 12, 2024, 07:59:53 PMDeleted to keep the thread on track.

I'm not sure this thread was ever on track.

Nope, it seems you guys don't know how to react when someone you hate, dislikes the same thing you do.

If it was a regular poster being outraged about Crawford stealing credit from Mearls this thread would be twice as long and you for sure would have got a good two minutes hate out of it.

I'm lost. Who am I supposed to hate, and what am I supposed to dislike here? I wouldn't want to get it wrong.

Seems like my job is done then, ta-ta.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 10:14:03 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on August 12, 2024, 07:59:53 PMDeleted to keep the thread on track.

I'm not sure this thread was ever on track.

Nope, it seems you guys don't know how to react when someone you hate, dislikes the same thing you do.

If it was a regular poster being outraged about Crawford stealing credit from Mearls this thread would be twice as long and you for sure would have got a good two minutes hate out of it.

I'm lost. Who am I supposed to hate, and what am I supposed to dislike here? I wouldn't want to get it wrong.

Seems like my job is done then, ta-ta.

Who do I talk to about getting my money refunded? This thread was terrible.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

MaxieMan

Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 10:14:03 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 12, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on August 12, 2024, 07:59:53 PMDeleted to keep the thread on track.

I'm not sure this thread was ever on track.

Nope, it seems you guys don't know how to react when someone you hate, dislikes the same thing you do.

If it was a regular poster being outraged about Crawford stealing credit from Mearls this thread would be twice as long and you for sure would have got a good two minutes hate out of it.

I'm lost. Who am I supposed to hate, and what am I supposed to dislike here? I wouldn't want to get it wrong.

Seems like my job is done then, ta-ta.


RPGPundit

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Mike Mearls was the lead designer in 5e. He was in charge of all the major decisions in design, what it was meant to do, and in terms of what the vision for the edition as a product line would be. Crawford was in charge of getting those decisions written up in the book.

Mearls was Simon, Crawford was Garfunkel. I was the Bob Dylan albums that Simon was listening to while he wrote lyrics. Garfunkel wasn't even in the room at the time.
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Quote from: jeff37923 on August 12, 2024, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PMNope, I'm good....

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 - Amends the federal criminal code to rewrite provisions relating to fraudulent claims about military service to subject to a fine, imprisonment for not more than one year, or both an individual who, with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit, fraudulently holds himself or herself out to be a recipient of:

a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.

Since Command Sgt. Major Walz is being accused of stolen valor by Cpl Hamel, and it not in regards to any of the above awards or badges, you all just must be butt hurt about my post title making your fee fees hurt.

I'm a veteran, I know what real stolen valor means. I don't believe anything you chuckle fucks say on this subject. I've seen how you've treated veterans like Dukakis, Kerry, Cleveland, and McCain. Real patriots respect their fellow  vets. Real patriots don't call for civil war and the balkanization of the continent. Real patriots don't swift boat.

OK, you can cut and paste from Wikipedia, go you.

However the language that you are using sounds like another poster named Monero who got beaten up soundly in another section of the forum. Do you really want to keep up with this "real patriots" substitution for the No True Scotsman Fallacy?

Some people never learn. You have to admire his persistence to get thrashed again. ;)
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jeff37923

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 12, 2024, 10:40:38 PMMike Mearls was the lead designer in 5e. He was in charge of all the major decisions in design, what it was meant to do, and in terms of what the vision for the edition as a product line would be. Crawford was in charge of getting those decisions written up in the book.

Mearls was Simon, Crawford was Garfunkel. I was the Bob Dylan albums that Simon was listening to while he wrote lyrics. Garfunkel wasn't even in the room at the time.


"Meh."

M2A0

Quote from: Jason Coplen on August 12, 2024, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on August 12, 2024, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PMNope, I'm good....

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 - Amends the federal criminal code to rewrite provisions relating to fraudulent claims about military service to subject to a fine, imprisonment for not more than one year, or both an individual who, with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit, fraudulently holds himself or herself out to be a recipient of:

a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.

Since Command Sgt. Major Walz is being accused of stolen valor by Cpl Hamel, and it not in regards to any of the above awards or badges, you all just must be butt hurt about my post title making your fee fees hurt.

I'm a veteran, I know what real stolen valor means. I don't believe anything you chuckle fucks say on this subject. I've seen how you've treated veterans like Dukakis, Kerry, Cleveland, and McCain. Real patriots respect their fellow  vets. Real patriots don't call for civil war and the balkanization of the continent. Real patriots don't swift boat.

OK, you can cut and paste from Wikipedia, go you.

However the language that you are using sounds like another poster named Monero who got beaten up soundly in another section of the forum. Do you really want to keep up with this "real patriots" substitution for the No True Scotsman Fallacy?

Some people never learn. You have to admire his persistence to get thrashed again. ;)

Wait, am I now actually a sock puppet for some other poster? Cool cool cool. I love it. The fever dreams never stop!

SHARK

Quote from: Jason Coplen on August 12, 2024, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: SHARK on August 12, 2024, 06:47:45 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on August 12, 2024, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 12:45:55 PMAll I know is that the side who swift boated John Kerry for killing a VC soldier with a BA-40 have no concept of honor, and can always be counted on to take the most heinous position on just about anything.
You shouldn't use the term stolen valor if you don't know what it means. You shouldn't complain about swift boating while repeating the already repudiated nonsense about the couch. You shouldn't bring up politics in a thread that has nothing to do with politics.

Greetings!

Absolutely right, Ruprecht!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

My friend, I fear you might have to explain stolen valor to the newbie. My wrecked by bad feet military service wasn't that long - I got an ELS.

Also, I can imagine you chewing crayons, smoking a cigar, and drinking at the same time while mumbling about these people. ;)

Greetings!

That's right, my friend! Yeah, the Stolen Valor jackasses are disgusting. I hope they all get floured and fried. I can rant for hours about them. All of my veteran friends despise them intensely!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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jeff37923

Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on August 12, 2024, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on August 12, 2024, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PMNope, I'm good....

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 - Amends the federal criminal code to rewrite provisions relating to fraudulent claims about military service to subject to a fine, imprisonment for not more than one year, or both an individual who, with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit, fraudulently holds himself or herself out to be a recipient of:

a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.

Since Command Sgt. Major Walz is being accused of stolen valor by Cpl Hamel, and it not in regards to any of the above awards or badges, you all just must be butt hurt about my post title making your fee fees hurt.

I'm a veteran, I know what real stolen valor means. I don't believe anything you chuckle fucks say on this subject. I've seen how you've treated veterans like Dukakis, Kerry, Cleveland, and McCain. Real patriots respect their fellow  vets. Real patriots don't call for civil war and the balkanization of the continent. Real patriots don't swift boat.

OK, you can cut and paste from Wikipedia, go you.

However the language that you are using sounds like another poster named Monero who got beaten up soundly in another section of the forum. Do you really want to keep up with this "real patriots" substitution for the No True Scotsman Fallacy?

Some people never learn. You have to admire his persistence to get thrashed again. ;)

Wait, am I now actually a sock puppet for some other poster?

Either that or just another easily ignored troll.
"Meh."

oggsmash

   I have zero doubts a dude like Crawford stays where he is by embellishing his own competence and diminishing those around him.  I mean he can only talk so much about his wonderful marriage to a man to ensure he is properly armored in modern day virtue.

HappyDaze

Quote from: oggsmash on August 13, 2024, 12:36:28 PMI have zero doubts a dude like Crawford stays where he is by embellishing his own competence and diminishing those around him.  I mean he can only talk so much about his wonderful marriage to a man to ensure he is properly armored in modern day virtue.
Do you have any evidence to support this, or are you just throwing shit because you dislike the guy?

Theory of Games

Quote from: M2A0 on August 12, 2024, 04:26:51 AMFuck the ridiculous and sad swift boating by couch fucker in waiting, there is real stolen valor afoot!

Mike Mearls has been regulated to an alphabetical placement within the 2014 5E designers, and Crawford has claimed, falsely, 10 years after the fact, the title of lead designer of 2014 5E. At best he could claim co-lead designer, and that would still be bullshit, since Mearls did all the heavy lifting.

What a POS!

It's on page 2 of the new PHB for those who are hate reading.
Mearls served?

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M2A0


oggsmash

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2024, 06:31:28 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on August 13, 2024, 12:36:28 PMI have zero doubts a dude like Crawford stays where he is by embellishing his own competence and diminishing those around him.  I mean he can only talk so much about his wonderful marriage to a man to ensure he is properly armored in modern day virtue.
Do you have any evidence to support this, or are you just throwing shit because you dislike the guy?

  The simple state of D&D as he is more and more "in charge" of is pretty damning evidence.