Quote from: Shasarak;1093114How is any of that Cultural Appropriation?  Its like saying the Trail of Tears is Cultural Appropriation.

It isn't but he's a snake oil peddler from some grievance studies field.

Quote from: kythri;1093116Well, they've got you yapping about it, so, ultimately, I'm less appreciative of native tribes because of your leftist babble.  Not because I'm disrespectful of their beliefs, but because I'm sick of having shitheeels harp on the idea that cultural appropriation is a thing, and that it's bad.  Native tribes are not your shield.

Aren't you appropriating their right to be offended on their own behalf?

It's the Baizuo's burden.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1093068The issue of "cultural appropriation" is more complicated than either side makes it out to be. Not everybody is offended by the same thing. Human cultures are complicated like that. Context is extremely important.

We live in a time where people enjoy being offended. The ultimate answer is who cares? Because ultimately, their feelings are meaningless. If giant comedy sombreros sell, then they will be sold.

Every culture is just fodder for every culture which encounters it. That's how humans work. We will constantly steal from each other any bits which seem interesting. Korean bulgogi is tasty, thus it will be added to other foods. Chinese dresses look sexy, thus their designs will be used by fashion houses. Baseball hats are useful, thus you find them worldwide.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1093068Until the indigenous tribes are out of poverty and have their sovereignty back, this will always be cultural appropriation.

It's doubtful how many "tribes" will even exist in 50 years, let alone 100. Probably only the largest tribes with the most profitable casinos. The small tribes are already scrambling to keep any bloodlines as most of who is left now is 1/2 or 1/4 or less.

They will never have sovereignty. Nobody is interested in foreign countries operating inside their turf. They will assimilate and/or vanish. "Native" families will go from 1/2, to 1/4th, to 1/8th, to 1/16th in a few generations. Who knows if the 1/4ths will even keep any of the culture?

But that's the nature of man and the nature of time. One culture dominates another into oblivion.

Seems we have lot more grievance appropriation than cultural appropriation going on here....

You're right and I'm sorry. I'm clouded by emotion and unable to construct a proper argument. Nobody can stop appropriation. I have no right to get offended on behalf of others. I have no right to speak for other cultures. I would like to respect and appreciate other cultures on their own merits. I accept that some cultural practices are ethically unsound and subject to criticism. I don't want to take unwarranted authority over and mutilate the facets of other cultures for entertainment.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1093174Nobody can stop appropriation.

It cannot be stopped. Not now or ever. It is the nature of Man's interaction with his fellows.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1093174I have no right to get offended on behalf of others. I have no right to speak for other cultures.

You have the right to free speech about anything you like.

But concern over "cultural appropriation" is bullshit virtue signalling, however, you are absolutely free to virtue signal as much as you like and you will not be banned.  

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1093174I would like to respect and appreciate other cultures on their own merits.

You are free to do that. Nobody will stop you.

Meanwhile, I will eat bulgogi tacos listening to Maori metal flipping through sites on mythical monsters from non-white cultures looking for kewl stuff to steal without mercy.  

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1093174I don't want to take unwarranted authority over and mutilate the facets of other cultures for entertainment.

You are free to do that. Nobody will stop you.

I, however, have total authority to do WTF I feel like with any culture for my entertainment. I can twist, mutilate, re-interpret and do whatever I like and then make sweet cash from it!

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1092695So you mean to tell me that in a british colony now you have mixed race people with lighter skin? WOW! Mind blown!

That's not why. The Higher Castes in India in general terms had lighter skin, since forever.

Also, this thread has gone completely off-topic.

Post only in relation to RPGs!