Quote from: HappyDaze on October 03, 2021, 07:51:51 PM

Yes, by all means keep fighting your secret war to save us from the Matrix, you dumbass.

This low effort gaslighting is neither informed nor persuasive. Your bossy instinct to spew smugness doesn't sell anything or debunk anything. You're whining and snapping and yet you claim it's all about nothing so frankly, who gives a shit? Not me.  There is no more need for me to read your badly formed, dim, useless, hostile, empty, "poopoo it with me me or else  because I say so" ankle biter posts. Count me among those other people who are done paying attention to you or communicating with you further. I'm done listening to you reading from your killer list of dumb rhetorical tricks for /reddit bosses.

Quote from: palaeomerus on October 03, 2021, 08:59:09 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 03, 2021, 07:51:51 PM

Yes, by all means keep fighting your secret war to save us from the Matrix, you dumbass.

This low effort gaslighting is neither informed nor persuasive. Your bossy instinct to spew smugness doesn't sell anything or debunk anything. You're whining and snapping and yet you claim it's all about nothing so frankly, who gives a shit? Not me.  There is no more need for me to read your badly formed, dim, useless, hostile, empty, "poopoo it with me me or else  because I say so" ankle biter posts. Count me among those other people who are done paying attention to you or communicating with you further. I'm done listening to you reading from your killer list of dumb rhetorical tricks for /reddit bosses.

Bye! Come back to reality any time you're ready. It won't wait for you, but it will still be here.

Quote from: palaeomerus on October 03, 2021, 08:59:09 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 03, 2021, 07:51:51 PM

Yes, by all means keep fighting your secret war to save us from the Matrix, you dumbass.

This low effort gaslighting is neither informed nor persuasive. Your bossy instinct to spew smugness doesn't sell anything or debunk anything. You're whining and snapping and yet you claim it's all about nothing so frankly, who gives a shit? Not me.  There is no more need for me to read your badly formed, dim, useless, hostile, empty, "poopoo it with me me or else  because I say so" ankle biter posts. Count me among those other people who are done paying attention to you or communicating with you further. I'm done listening to you reading from your killer list of dumb rhetorical tricks for /reddit bosses.

Greetings!

Strange how that list just seems to keep growing, heh?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on October 03, 2021, 07:43:34 PM
Greetings!

*laughing* Some morons don't believe that the "Culture War" exists. Amazing. The absolute head-up-their-ass stupidity is mind-numbing. That's what you get with these clueless morons though. Our society is full of such morons living in blind, blissful denial.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Those who agree with the positions of the Left see no reason to upset the apple cart. They also have to pretend not to know things (chiefly all the failure and misery that occurs wherever their ideas are embraced) in order to not come off as criminally insane.

The OSR Discord channel, or at least the main one that I know of, has a loud minority of commies, revisionists, anti-colonialists, whatever you want to call them--SJWs I guess--who really get on one's nerves at times. Recently we had a nice little RPG.net style lynching of a user for offending the usual types. He was banned instantly, no warning, for asking another user if he didn't have enough OSR in his life already, seeing as how he was looking for a game in an East African timezone.
These haters of the West love to call in the mods when they get triggered.
It's really tiresome. On one hand there's a lot of creativity going on in there, and it's a good place to find players. But on the other hand if I drop in to the general chat about a quarter of the time some teenager is spouting off about how AWFUL Tolkien is and what a terrible bigot Gygax must have been to ever include evil monsters in his game.

Sometimes there are glimmers of resistance against this kind of lunacy, but they stick together, these pearl-clutchers, and are very loud indeed.

Some recent blurbs, to give you an idea of the quality of conversation:

"Like... the function of orcs and hobgoblins in D&D, the reason they were included? Does Not Require that orcs and hobgoblins be thinly-veiled allegories for colonized POC. And the problem isn't that orcs and hobgoblins are all universally fucking awful, the problem is they're all universally fucking awful combined with that unnecessary and offensive coding."


"Literally every single problem with alignment comes from the fact that it was designed to justify war crimes as objectively Good.
It's a system designed to simulate morality by a man with zero relevant personal experience.
Because it's not good enough for D&D to let you play out your adolescent power fantasies with your friends... it has to make the angels descend upon you from on high to sing your praises."

Spiteful, self-righteous little ninnies.

QuoteThey also have to pretend not to know things (chiefly all the failure and misery that occurs wherever their ideas are embraced) in order to not come off as criminally insane.

Considering vast majority of leftists dreams about estabilishing Scandinavian welfare state in USA, not leninism, I think generally speaking they can.
I mean as a Catholic conservatist I despise Scandinavia, but like it's far far from what Soviet brand of communism was in terms of life comfort and so on. And liblefts generally hate tankies.

Quote*laughing* Some morons don't believe that the "Culture War" exists. Amazing. The absolute head-up-their-ass stupidity is mind-numbing. That's what you get with these clueless morons though. Our society is full of such morons living in blind, blissful denial.

Of course there is not. There is Cultural Hegemony, and various small centres of resistance. That does not constitutes war.
War if any was lost in 60s without much shots fired, everything later is inevitable aftermatch

For 45 years Poland was under Soviet yoke, and there was always resistance in the nation. But in no point is reached status of war.
And maybe it's better as full on war could be way way more devastating, than keeping opposition while system crumbled from inefficiency.

QuoteIt's a system designed to simulate morality by a man with zero relevant personal experience.

With all my alignment-hate that's just moronic. Next time Hit Points as a system designed to simulate wounds by a man with zero relevant personal experience

Quote from: Chris24601 on October 04, 2021, 06:47:26 AM

Quote from: SHARK on October 03, 2021, 07:43:34 PM
Greetings!

*laughing* Some morons don't believe that the "Culture War" exists. Amazing. The absolute head-up-their-ass stupidity is mind-numbing. That's what you get with these clueless morons though. Our society is full of such morons living in blind, blissful denial.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Those who agree with the positions of the Left see no reason to upset the apple cart. They also have to pretend not to know things (chiefly all the failure and misery that occurs wherever their ideas are embraced) in order to not come off as criminally insane.

There's no need for them to pretend.  They truly believe they are doing things "for the greater good." People like that are, by all definitions in the DSM, clinically insane.

Aaaand I've been banned. "Tinker" is a slur by the way to gypsies, which is also a slur, and arguing about it is bannable.

Quote from: Trinculoisdead on December 17, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
Aaaand I've been banned. "Tinker" is a slur by the way to gypsies, which is also a slur, and arguing about it is bannable.

What a gyp!

Quote from: Trinculoisdead on December 17, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
Aaaand I've been banned. "Tinker" is a slur by the way to gypsies, which is also a slur, and arguing about it is bannable.

Did you really want to hang around a place like that anyhow?

Quote from: Ocule on July 03, 2021, 11:07:15 AM
Wasn't sure if this belonged here or in the rpg pundits own thread, but anyway I wanted to discuss what we can actually do about the SJWs in the hobby. I've been fighting the good fight for a while now, standing up to those sjw bullies whenever they pop their stupid little heads up. Usually i'll use logic and reason, other times i'll use sarcasm and mockery if i think they're too dense to get the former but it always ends the same. A banning from whatever website or platform it's being discussed on. Normally I wouldn't give a flying rats ass about being banned from a politically charged cesspool, but i'm starting to despair as one community after another falls to this cult. I use community as in specific groups, such as discords, facebook groups and internet forums. Othertimes it will be a game company who made a game i really used to enjoy, though i find it harder and harder to actually enjoy content while trying to overlook the obvious jabs and commentary in their actual products.

I'll buy into a game series, spend my hard earned cash on a line of products and get involved with other players finding people to play the game or discuss the hobby with. It seems great but then give it a year or so and next thing you know either the majority of the online communities or the company itself falls to woke bullshit. Often times you have a group or two that establishes itself as the officially sanctioned unofficial group, (see Genesys RPG, or Savage Worlds). The devs are usually part of that community and use it as an official platform to put out information or interact with their fans. So getting banned from a community is pretty can be pretty upsetting especially when you've already invested heavily into the game line. A bit anecdotal here, but I was banned from a community for discussing the half orcs and their origins. After talking with the admin I was told in no uncertain terms that if I had not been "right leaning" I would not have been banned and instead probably given a warning. I probably have around 400 dollars in physical merchandise from the game company associated in books and game aids. On the other hand with the Genesys RPG, there is an unofficial group that has set itself up as the defacto "community" and acts as if they were speaking on behalf of fantasy flight games and the rpg system, and the actual owners of the game don't seem to care.

Expanding this into OSR, i've found that OSR game communities are hit or miss and lately have been more miss than hit. I'm practically going blind from all the fucking rainbows. Hell even the WHFRP and 40k sites are going more and more woke to a disgusting degree. Not sure how a game with a literal rape monster ever got woke. I invested heavily into 5e D&D when it first came out as well until they got all woke (tomb of annihilation was the last straw for me) now they sit in a box in the attic.

Anyway the point to all this rambling besides just blowing off steam at my frustrations is how do we reasonably oppose these people and successfully gatekeep our hobby without getting yeeted from the internet or pretty much insta banned from a community. It has made me very hesitant to want to pick up new games because I hate to invest my time and money into a game where the devs hate me and would see me put in a fucking gulag if they could and what is apolitical or not woke today, won't necessarily be still apolitical or not woke tomorrow.

TL;DR How do we gatekeep the sjws/progressive nonsense without getting instantly yeeted off the internet.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxglAzZ-zTY

first post -  I registered for this site because a search led me to this thread

God bless you all for this

Quote from: tenbones on December 17, 2021, 03:21:50 PM

Quote from: Trinculoisdead on December 17, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
Aaaand I've been banned. "Tinker" is a slur by the way to gypsies, which is also a slur, and arguing about it is bannable.

Did you really want to hang around a place like that anyhow?

It was pretty good for finding players, and for casual dungeon-delving games. But now I gots to go elsewhere, wandering along the roads like one of them tinkers!

Specific company discords i have some luck finding games, like necrotic gnome, troll lord games, frog god games etc. The discord called "OSR" just looked like pure cancer.

One obstacle; is that so many of these pink lace cupcakes, believe that they are highly intelligent and morally pure.  They see themselves as being the righteous among us.  They are true believers, who can't be converted.  They are also active and vocal.  The average "Normal" human being, doesn't have time for all this nonsense; because we work jobs, and pay our own bills.

Well yes of course. If you look at, for example, the cancerous OSR discord server, the number of pronoun-bearing, marxist-loving, civilization-dismantlers are a teeny tiny portion of the hundreds of users. The cancer is virulent, but relatively small.
But, as cancers do, this one grows stronger over time. Specifically, it tightens its hold on the identity of the server by periodically chopping off the most obvious opponents to its ideas.