Kyle Brink, who recently said "white guy" D&D gamers "can't leave soon enough for this hobby", has now declared that WoTC won't do a new Dark Sun book because it's "problematic".
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Kyle Brink should be covered in BBQ sauce, and left in the Halfling rainforest.

He didn't say why it was problematic. He didn't elaborate on the statement.

D&D 5e didn't do a full set of Psionics rules that got the official stamp. All they have done has been half-efforts at best.

People who say "problematic" usually mean "bad." But that sounds silly and childish, so they use a word with 4 syllables to make it sound grave and serious.

I want settings that are problematic in the true meaning of the word. That's an interesting setting and the players will have lots to do!

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on February 27, 2023, 08:52:19 AM
He didn't say why it was problematic. He didn't elaborate on the statement.

We all know what he means...he probably also hates Huckleberry Finn for the same reasons, but I am sure he'd push for grade school drag shows.

Also does this even really matter at this point? WotC has jumped the shark. They're going to keep pushing this dumbass narrative to try to capture a segment of the market that spends hours a day complaining on Twitter but has zero dollars to spend on product. Alienate the real market some more...it's just corporate suicide.

They are not going to touch Dark Sun? GOOD! GREAT!
They still have their sights set on other stuff like Planescape though. That will probably be a complete fuck up.

On the bright side, this is gonna provide opportunities for competitors.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on February 27, 2023, 08:52:19 AM
He didn't say why it was problematic. He didn't elaborate on the statement.

D&D 5e didn't do a full set of Psionics rules that got the official stamp. All they have done has been half-efforts at best.

Not hard to figure IMHO:

It's the pervasive Slavery, and various 'depictions' of the races in Dark Sun.

WotC has reached the point that they fear groups might play the game wrong if they have such elements in a setting...

i.e. We can't have pervasive slavery because someone in some group somewhere may engage in the setting's slave trade: A (Insert minority/POC group here) might stumble across that, and declare everything D&D to be racist bigotry!!!

Similar to Vincent Baker's reasoning on why he pulled his RPG Dog's in the Vinyard: "Westerns can go to hell, Utah history can go to hell, and unless I can extricate Dogs from that, it can go to hell too"...

Everything is problematic.

Quote from: Omega on February 27, 2023, 12:47:53 PM
They are not going to touch Dark Sun? GOOD! GREAT!

Yeah, I'm not seeing a downside here.

"Problematic" is just the word people use when they don't like something, but they can't make a substantive criticism.

Quote from: rytrasmi on February 27, 2023, 09:59:15 AM
People who say "problematic" usually mean "bad." But that sounds silly and childish, so they use a word with 4 syllables to make it sound grave and serious.

I want settings that are problematic in the true meaning of the word. That's an interesting setting and the players will have lots to do!

Greetings!

*Laughing* So true, Rytrasmi! "so they use a word with 4 syllables to make it sound grave and serious." *Howling* You know that's right, man! All their jerking language and words around. They are sickening. It's also a reflection of their pretentiousness and love for making themselves seem oh so intellectual and deep. And they get *excited* over themselves being "superior" to all of the unwashed masses. I saw all of this same kind of pseudo-intellectual circle-jerking and posing from the Libtard kids at my university. It's also promoted and precisely taught to them by the Libtard professors. They always prattle on about how "educated" and "intellectual" they are--and how "Uneducated" the filthy, ignorant, unwashed masses are. Especially those who are *Conservative*.

WOTC and this jackass Blink guy everytime they even open their mouths anymore--it's just more of this Woke, Libtard diarrhea. I know exactly how these morons work, how they believe, and think. I had to endure this stupid kind of insanity through several required classes while I was at my university. (And yes. My fights with these students--and the Libtard professors involved--was constant, and epic. On the advice of my thankfully strong and Conservative professors--I eventually resigned myself to getting by in these classes with a C or a B grade, punching my ticket, and moving on.) The fact that I routinely did *A* work was irrelevant. My good professors explained to me that realistically, my choices were to do the work, knowing the Liberal professors were going to stab me with lesser grades; don't do the work, fight more loudly, and potentially get a D or F for the course, or withdraw from the course entirely. Withdrawing was simply impossible, per requirements, and to keep my GPA up, getting a D or F wouldn't work either, so yeah, I had to suffer. I hated every minute being in these kinds of classes though.

I'm glad though that WOTC won't be touching Dark Sun. As others have mentioned, can you just imagine what morons like Jeremy Crawford and the rest of these *Invasion of the Body Snatchers* pod people would do to the campaign setting? (Cue the brilliant Donald Sutherland into view).

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 27, 2023, 08:28:14 AM
Kyle Brink, who recently said "white guy" D&D gamers "can't leave soon enough for this hobby",

Kyle didn't say that. He was referencing his unit at D&D of about 7 executives, not "D&D gamers."

And I know you knew that. We already had the discussion, which you saw and commented on. So this is you willfully lying and not just being mistaken.

People can make conjectures about it of course, but put quotes around it like you just did as if he literally said white guy D&D gamers (the gamers - not the designers) can't leave soon enough for this hobby. That's you lying. It's not a fine distinction, it's not word play, it's not being pedantic, that's you actually directly lying for clicks.

Which makes you no better than they guys you're supposedly fighting, when you resort to lying about what they said to make money from clicks.

Quote from: Omega on February 27, 2023, 12:47:53 PM
GOOD! GREAT!

Yep. All things considered, this is probably a good thing for all.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 28, 2023, 12:20:51 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 27, 2023, 08:28:14 AM
Kyle Brink, who recently said "white guy" D&D gamers "can't leave soon enough for this hobby",

Kyle didn't say that. He was referencing his unit at D&D of about 7 executives, not "D&D gamers."

And I know you knew that. We already had the discussion, which you saw and commented on. So this is you willfully lying and not just being mistaken.

People can make conjectures about it of course, but put quotes around it like you just did as if he literally said white guy D&D gamers (the gamers - not the designers) can't leave soon enough for this hobby. That's you lying. It's not a fine distinction, it's not word play, it's not being pedantic, that's you actually directly lying for clicks.

Which makes you no better than they guys you're supposedly fighting, when you resort to lying about what they said to make money from clicks.

Greetings!

*Laughing* Mistwell, come on, man. Put down the Kool Aid. There are literally DOZENS of videos talking about all of this BS from WOTC and Blink. Tenkar's Tavern, Clownfish, on and on. I stopped watching after about half a dozen or so. ALL of them essentially agree with PUNDIT.

To hear you talk, by implication, all of them are lying jackasses and frauds, Blink is innocent, WOTC blows rainbow sparkles out their asses, and Pundit and ALL THE MANY MANY OTHER creators and commentators are all a bunch of lying grifters gulping for "Clicks".

I've seen the quotes. Over and over and over. I don't care if WOTC or Blink was talking about the "entire hobby", or just designers. It's all racist, Woke BS.

Sorry, Mistwell. Put the Kool Aid down, man.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I prefer the original Dark Sun overall, but the 4e Dark Sun books were surprisingly good and looked quite fun. Shame I never got to run it.