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R.I.P. Jennell Jaquays

Started by GeekyBugle, January 10, 2024, 12:45:43 PM

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mcbobbo

#270
February 02, 2024, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: blackstone on February 02, 2024, 12:34:15 PM
Did they go on to mention that he's transgender, or was that memory-holed?

Discussed at about the 75% mark (below the fold if you will).

No mention of working under a prior name.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Thorn Drumheller

#271
February 02, 2024, 03:54:23 PM
yeah......horrible AI generated art even
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jhkim

#272
February 02, 2024, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: blackstone on February 02, 2024, 12:34:15 PM
The NYT, the "alleged" newspaper of journalistic integrity, used a AI generated image.

That image is the same one that was previously chosen for the memorial webpage, presumably by her family:

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/en-ca/obituaries/dallas-tx/jennell-jaquays-11623534

Her funeral is currently being livestreamed, and that picture is on a stand beside the open casket where she is resting.

In the article, the image is described as "Jennell Jaquays in a digital illustration made from a photograph." and credited to "Jennell Jaquays, Gilbert Palau and Jesus Pacheco".

mcbobbo

#273
February 02, 2024, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: jhkim on February 02, 2024, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: blackstone on February 02, 2024, 12:34:15 PM
The NYT, the "alleged" newspaper of journalistic integrity, used a AI generated image.

That image is the same one that was previously chosen for the memorial webpage, presumably by her family:

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/en-ca/obituaries/dallas-tx/jennell-jaquays-11623534

Her funeral is currently being livestreamed, and that picture is on a stand beside the open casket where she is resting.

In the article, the image is described as "Jennell Jaquays in a digital illustration made from a photograph." and credited to "Jennell Jaquays, Gilbert Palau and Jesus Pacheco".

When I go, my family has been directed to invent the wildest, most impossible stories about me that they can, to share with the baffled audience.

If my funeral is going to be filled with bullshit, at least it should be an inside joke.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Cathode Ray

#274
February 02, 2024, 04:35:08 PM Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 04:40:16 PM by Cathode Ray
Like his gender, Mr. Jaquay's photo is a fake!
But NY Times is such an untrusted rag with no relevance anymore.  This rag an the last years of his life are a perfect match.

EDIT: the sad thing is that I doubt Mr. Jaquays would get anywhere close to this much acclaim for his work in the RPG industry if didn't deny his biological gender..  The acclaim comes BECAUSE of the biology denial.  If it was for his contribution to the industry, he would get the same amount of fanfare as most of the others who have died recently, but was ignored by those outside RPG's niche community because they didn't have trans privilege.
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BadApple

#275
February 02, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 02, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
Like his gender, Mr. Jaquay's photo is a fake!
But NY Times is such an untrusted rag with no relevance anymore.  This rag an the last years of his life are a perfect match.

EDIT: the sad thing is that I doubt Mr. Jaquays would get anywhere close to this much acclaim for his work in the RPG industry if didn't deny his biological gender..  The acclaim comes BECAUSE of the biology denial.  If it was for his contribution to the industry, he would get the same amount of fanfare as most of the others who have died recently, but was ignored by those outside RPG's niche community because they didn't have trans privilege.

I disagree.  Jaquays was an exemplary games designer and has been recognized for that in multiple circles for decades. 
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

pawsplay

#276
February 02, 2024, 05:37:24 PM Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 05:44:42 PM by pawsplay
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 02, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
EDIT: the sad thing is that I doubt Mr. Jaquays would get anywhere close to this much acclaim for his work in the RPG industry if didn't deny his biological gender.. 

Justin Alexander wrote "Jaquaying [sic] the Dungeon" in 2010. She came out as trans in 2011.

To most of the world, outside our little circle of nerddom, she was known as a Quake level design god.

Brad

#277
February 02, 2024, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: BadApple on February 02, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
I disagree.  Jaquays was an exemplary games designer and has been recognized for that in multiple circles for decades.

Yeah, but you can bet your ass there wouldn't be a story in the NYT...whenever Rob Kuntz dies, you think there's going to be a NYT story? He is probably #2 on the list for contributions to the RPG hobby after Gygax, but simply a minor footnote in history.
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pawsplay

#278
February 02, 2024, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: Brad on February 02, 2024, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: BadApple on February 02, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
I disagree.  Jaquays was an exemplary games designer and has been recognized for that in multiple circles for decades.

Yeah, but you can bet your ass there wouldn't be a story in the NYT...whenever Rob Kuntz dies, you think there's going to be a NYT story? He is probably #2 on the list for contributions to the RPG hobby after Gygax, but simply a minor footnote in history.

I'm probably going to be sorry I asked, but where would you put Dave Arneson on that list?

Grognard GM

#279
February 02, 2024, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: BadApple on February 02, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 02, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
Like his gender, Mr. Jaquay's photo is a fake!
But NY Times is such an untrusted rag with no relevance anymore.  This rag an the last years of his life are a perfect match.

EDIT: the sad thing is that I doubt Mr. Jaquays would get anywhere close to this much acclaim for his work in the RPG industry if didn't deny his biological gender..  The acclaim comes BECAUSE of the biology denial.  If it was for his contribution to the industry, he would get the same amount of fanfare as most of the others who have died recently, but was ignored by those outside RPG's niche community because they didn't have trans privilege.

I disagree.  Jaquays was an exemplary games designer and has been recognized for that in multiple circles for decades.

Which means jack and shit to the NYT.

They're not getting an article for being a game designer that happened to be Trans, they got it for being a TRANS game designer.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

BadApple

#280
February 02, 2024, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on February 02, 2024, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: BadApple on February 02, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 02, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
Like his gender, Mr. Jaquay's photo is a fake!
But NY Times is such an untrusted rag with no relevance anymore.  This rag an the last years of his life are a perfect match.

EDIT: the sad thing is that I doubt Mr. Jaquays would get anywhere close to this much acclaim for his work in the RPG industry if didn't deny his biological gender..  The acclaim comes BECAUSE of the biology denial.  If it was for his contribution to the industry, he would get the same amount of fanfare as most of the others who have died recently, but was ignored by those outside RPG's niche community because they didn't have trans privilege.

I disagree.  Jaquays was an exemplary games designer and has been recognized for that in multiple circles for decades.

Which means jack and shit to the NYT.

They're not getting an article for being a game designer that happened to be Trans, they got it for being a TRANS game designer.
Quote from: Brad on February 02, 2024, 05:38:46 PM


Quote from: BadApple on February 02, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
I disagree.  Jaquays was an exemplary games designer and has been recognized for that in multiple circles for decades.

Yeah, but you can bet your ass there wouldn't be a story in the NYT...whenever Rob Kuntz dies, you think there's going to be a NYT story? He is probably #2 on the list for contributions to the RPG hobby after Gygax, but simply a minor footnote in history.

Fair enough.  However, who still reads the NYT?
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

Persimmon

#281
February 02, 2024, 08:14:00 PM
Other than rehashing old work, was anything of note accomplished AFTER the transition?

Ruprecht

#282
February 02, 2024, 08:49:00 PM Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 08:53:16 PM by Ruprecht
I may be alone in this but I'd never heard of the Jaquays until the Alexandrian article. I was big into RuneQuest and although its always on a pedestal I never liked Griffin Mountain (could have been Greg Stafford's fault as he did a major rewrite), I had Hellpits of Nightfang but thought it was dull and uninspired (and I blamed Judge's Guild). After the Alexandrian article I bought Caverns of Thracia and it was pretty good but the whole elevation to one of the greats thing that I've seen in the last half decade baffles me, must be the they did their best work on the D&D side.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

WERDNA

#283
February 02, 2024, 09:00:01 PM Last Edit: February 03, 2024, 02:13:40 PM by WERDNA
Quote from: Ruprecht on February 02, 2024, 08:49:00 PM
I may be alone in this but I'd never heard of the Jaquays until the Alexandrian article. I was big into RuneQuest and although its always on a pedestal I never liked Griffin Mountain (could have been Greg Stafford's fault as he did a major rewrite), I had Hellpits of Nightfang but thought it was dull and uninspired (and I blamed Judge's Guild). After the Alexandrian article I bought Caverns of Thracia and it was pretty good but the whole elevation to one of the greats thing that I've seen in the last half decade baffles me, must be the they did their best work on the D&D side.

The adventures in the Dungeoneer and Dark Tower were also really good.

daniel_ream

#284
February 02, 2024, 09:56:42 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on February 02, 2024, 08:49:00 PM
After the Alexandrian article I bought Caverns of Thracia and it was pretty good but the whole elevation to one of the greats thing that I've seen in the last half decade baffles me

You're not the only one.  The extreme hagiography that goes on with some writers just because they happened to work on early D&D stuff is a bit unseemly, in my opinion.  OTOH, a man has died suddenly and I'm not going to use the thread to pick nits in forty year old game material.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
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