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R.I.P. Jennell Jaquays

Started by GeekyBugle, January 10, 2024, 12:45:43 PM

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jhkim

#45
January 12, 2024, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 11, 2024, 07:04:31 PM
Now I'm curious about the Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide, here:

https://preview.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/16887/DMGR1-Campaign-Sourcebook-and-Catacomb-Guide-2e

I got a friend's copy of this, and it's an interesting general GM's advice book. There's some wordy and not especially deep advice in parts, but it especially shows a love of dungeon settings with six great example maps towards the end.

Armchair Gamer

#46
January 12, 2024, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 12, 2024, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 11, 2024, 07:04:31 PM
Now I'm curious about the Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide, here:

https://preview.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/16887/DMGR1-Campaign-Sourcebook-and-Catacomb-Guide-2e

I got a friend's copy of this, and it's an interesting general GM's advice book. There's some wordy and not especially deep advice in parts, but it especially shows a love of dungeon settings with six great example maps towards the end.

   It should be noted that the book has two authors--Jaquays and William W. Connors, for whom this was his first TSR project. According to Shannon Appelcline's history of it on DTRPG, Jaquays did the first 100 pages or so, and the last 28-some are Connors' contribution. To be honest, given Jaquay's long association with dungeons and that Connors would go on to be involved with TSR's more 'narrative' settings (including Ravenloft, Masque of the Red Death, and the direly underappreciated Dragonlance: Fifth Age and SAGA Rules System), I would have guessed the breakdown would be the opposite.

GhostNinja

#47
January 12, 2024, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on January 11, 2024, 11:28:50 AM
Many old-school people know him by his given name: Paul Jaquays.  Many gaming news sites have created confusion by referring to him with female pronouns, so some readers may have thought they were writing about a woman with the same last name, like a sister or wife.

I have been gaming for a long time myself and still haven't heard of this person by their previous name.  Maybe its because I mostly concern myself on whether the game is worth having and not who writes it.  That's probably it.

I can understand what you mean about the possibility of confusion though.
Ghostninja

Gagarth

#48
January 12, 2024, 02:39:02 PM Last Edit: January 12, 2024, 03:04:51 PM by Gagarth
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 10, 2024, 01:19:37 PM
I was reading down the wiki thinking "what an unusual, impressive list of gaming achievements for a woman..."
Women in Tabletop gaming
Quotehttps://www.chaosium.com/blogwomen-in-tabletop-gaming-month-15-chaosium-interviews-jennell-jaquays/

QuoteIt was decided well in advance that this book would definitely not be "politically correct." In fact, its contents tend toward the socially, politically, morally, ethically, and religiously conservative side. To tell the truth, the authors and editors think our heritage of western culture, heterosexuality,traditional families, Judeo-Chriastian values, Jesus Christ and God are all pretty neat. While we won't force them on you, we do recommend them to everybody- your life can only better for it. As such, this book contains expressions of the authors' personal value structures that could be quite unpopular with those who assign equal value to all cultures, religions, lifestyles, sexual, or moral choice
Paul reeeeeeeeeeeeee Jennell Jaquays.
Interesting in that the  the cult Jaquays joined in later life does force their personal value structures on to others.
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

GhostNinja

#49
January 12, 2024, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: Gagarth on January 12, 2024, 02:39:02 PM
Paul reeeeeeeeeeeeee Jennell Jaquays.
Interesting in that the  the cult Jaquays joined in later life does force their personal value structures on to others.

You are right.  It's sad Paul died.  I am totally going to miss that dude.  ;D
Ghostninja

Brad

#50
January 12, 2024, 05:58:22 PM
How did I know this thread would devolve into a shitfest about pronouns...PAUL wrote Dark Tower. Jennell revised it. I consider them two different people, honestly.

I find it ironic as fuck that "Burger" Heineman changed his name, too. Apparently, two of the most important "women" in gaming were actually dudes, which proves men are better at everything?
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Grognard GM

#51
January 12, 2024, 11:07:33 PM
Quote from: Brad on January 12, 2024, 05:58:22 PM
How did I know this thread would devolve into a shitfest about pronouns...PAUL wrote Dark Tower. Jennell revised it. I consider them two different people, honestly.

I find it ironic as fuck that "Burger" Heineman changed his name, too. Apparently, two of the most important "women" in gaming were actually dudes, which proves men are better at everything?

Part of the 'dead naming' magic spell is that we suddenly have women who have been amazing engineers and game designers for the last 50 years, proving misogynist bigots are full of shit!

Sure those women were autistic men at the time they did their amazing things, but now they're retroactively female achievements. Much like no woman could crack into even semi-pro video games esports, no matter how much money and favouritism was thrown at them, but now we have several trans-women int he leagues, proving women are just as good!
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

grimshwiz

#52
January 13, 2024, 12:14:47 AM
RIP Paul. Your contributions to the hobby will not be forgotten.

Ratman_tf

#53
January 13, 2024, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: Brad on January 12, 2024, 05:58:22 PM
How did I know this thread would devolve into a shitfest about pronouns

It didn't. We just have the one troll trying to derail the thread.
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-Haffrung

Brad

#54
January 13, 2024, 08:19:05 AM Last Edit: January 13, 2024, 08:21:48 AM by Brad
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 13, 2024, 01:56:42 AM
It didn't. We just have the one troll trying to derail the thread.

The troll should probably read the introduction to Central Casting - Heroes Now and explain how to rectify the language used therein with Current Day rhetoric. From the same person.

EDIT: Also page 87. Like, explain that. I literally DGAF whatsoever, but I will say that I found Jaquays' ludicrous stance for not attending NTRPGCon one year at total odds with his previous view on things.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

pawsplay

#55
January 13, 2024, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: BadApple on January 12, 2024, 12:15:25 AM
Pawsplay, you don't speak for the family.  You are here pushing an ideology.  You know full well that you're just stirring up trouble while standing on Jaquay's body.  It is repugnant.

I'm pretty comfortable saying that my viewpoint is that of her widow. What is repugnant is people doing exactly what you say I'm doing. I have a pretty good idea what Jennell would say to people offering "condolences" and "respect" to her dead name, which are clearly anything but. You didn't like how she presented herself in life, there is no reason to pretend you cared a thing about her now that she is dead. You can just, you know, be silent.

My FB feed is full of her friends and colleagues offering sincere condolences and tributes.

SHARK

#56
January 13, 2024, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: Brad on January 12, 2024, 05:58:22 PM
How did I know this thread would devolve into a shitfest about pronouns...PAUL wrote Dark Tower. Jennell revised it. I consider them two different people, honestly.

I find it ironic as fuck that "Burger" Heineman changed his name, too. Apparently, two of the most important "women" in gaming were actually dudes, which proves men are better at everything?

Greetings!

"A shitfest about pronouns..." *Laughing*

Of course, Brad! You KNEW it would devolve into precisely that. I always suspected the same would happen, of course. It is so predictable, and hilarious, in its own way.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

GhostNinja

#57
January 13, 2024, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 13, 2024, 04:09:19 PM
Greetings!

"A shitfest about pronouns..." *Laughing*

Of course, Brad! You KNEW it would devolve into precisely that. I always suspected the same would happen, of course. It is so predictable, and hilarious, in its own way.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Perhaps Pawsplay mistook this place for rpg.net.
Ghostninja

pawsplay

#58
January 13, 2024, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on January 13, 2024, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 13, 2024, 04:09:19 PM
Greetings!

"A shitfest about pronouns..." *Laughing*

Of course, Brad! You KNEW it would devolve into precisely that. I always suspected the same would happen, of course. It is so predictable, and hilarious, in its own way.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Perhaps Pawsplay mistook this place for rpg.net.

Not likely, since I'm permanently banned from RPG.net.

GhostNinja

#59
January 13, 2024, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on January 13, 2024, 04:12:19 PM
Not likely, since I'm permanently banned from RPG.net.

You are free to believe in that trans nonsense, but you cannot force others to believe in it.  That's what that cesspool rpg.net (which I am not banned on, but chose not to go back to) does.

He was Paul and he was Jennell, and nothing he does erases that fact.
Ghostninja
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