Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;956313Um, there are still eyewitnesses living who will testify this ain't true... not to mention Jon has already documented letters from Phil in early 1974 about my D&D game.

Gods of Cimmeria, this whole thing is starting to make my asshole tired.

Meanwhile, now that I'm retired I have all these kits waiting to be built...

They are all liars, and part of the Gygax-Arneson gang that so cruelly ripped Phil off. And Jon probably forged the letters; they are not Officially Authorized and Approved as truth. I have this on good authority, of course, and I believe everything I am told by my betters. ("Solidarity, Reg!")

I got tired of it several years ago - see also the scar on the back of my head - and I'm still tired of this kind of crap; the latest 'news' from Con of the North that Phil persecuted gays and hated them because he was a devout Muslim is simply the latest bucket of nonsense. I never saw any of that kind of malarky when I was out there, and I don't think you did either, but then both you and and I are part of the conspiracy to deny gay guys their rightful place in gaming.

Is there a Secret Handshake or anything? I didn't get the memo...

Oh, sigh... :rolleyes:

Uncle,

I don't think we touched on this...Did you ever game with the Professor during a different time period other than the current history of Tekumel?

Thanks,

H:0)

PS At this point I don't remember if we DID discuss it...long thread!!!

Quote from: chirine ba kal;956318I think so; you'd have to look at the copyright laws to be sure. On the other hand, the owner of the copyright has to object, and in this case Mrs. Barker simply doesn't care - as long as she doesn't have to deal with it, it's not her problem. A number of things of a similar nature have been reported to her, and she's ignored the reports. She was never involved or interested in Phil's gaming or Tekumel; that was his 'night out with the boys', and not her problem.

Then it's not the same, Uncle, because here it's a general crime that is prosecuted by the DA. As I said, the rights holder can allow you to publish the text for free, but allowing you to change the name on the cover is null and void, and the DA's office job:).

BTW, Uncle, is Mrs Barker aware of Phil supposedly persecuting gay guys for religious reasons? She just might take a different view of that.

Though on second thought, it's best to leave those people be, and enjoy the peace and quiet. People can compare your account and theirs, and decide on their own;).

Quote from: altfritz;956272I'd love to put it up on my blog but would need permission and they're the ones to give it. :-(

Research the Fair Use laws. I doubt you need permission to repost quotes (even huge chunks) from an article in a blog discussing said huge quoted chunks, especially if the magazine is extinct. It is truly amazing how many out of print and extinct periodicals can be found on Archive.org.

And of course, lots of old books get posted on the web...mysteriously, anonymously and forever accessible...

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;956278But I want them to game with, not worship.  Or have sex with.

Stop being such a prude!

Actually Fair Use laws vary according to jurisdiction. Posting copies of the SoA magazine or parts thereof on-line will be regarded as "not done, Old Boy" by the committee of said group. See the UK rules at :Uk Copyright Service

Quote from: Hermes Serpent;956399Actually Fair Use laws vary according to jurisdiction. Posting copies of the SoA magazine or parts thereof on-line will be regarded as "not done, Old Boy" by the committee of said group. See the UK rules at :Uk Copyright Service

I've already contacted SoA. They stated that the rights belong with the author. Or, in this case, the Foundation. But it sounds like (per Chirine) that all the Slingshot issues are already in their hands. I only have a partial collection...there may be other contributions as well...letters, articles, etc.

QuoteLots of fascinating material in there, like a manuscript copy of Tony Bath's campaign rules sent by him to Phil pre-publication.

DID YOU SAY HYBORIA CAMPAIGN MANUSCRIPT? :eek:

That would be valuable!

Howard

I notice online that Professor Barker's miniatures fought in a battle at a recent con. Possibly Con of the North.

Quote from: altfritz;956410I notice online that Professor Barker's miniatures fought in a battle at a recent con. Possibly Con of the North.

Don't know about Con of the North, but they were used at GaryCon.

Quote from: Hrugga;956322Uncle,

I don't think we touched on this...Did you ever game with the Professor during a different time period other than the current history of Tekumel?

Thanks,

H:0)

PS At this point I don't remember if we DID discuss it...long thread!!!

Yes, we did. Bednjallan times, Engsvanyali times, and Classical Tsolyanu - about 500 years before present - are all ones that spring instantly to mind.

No, it hasn't really come up, before.

Quote from: AsenRG;956325Then it's not the same, Uncle, because here it's a general crime that is prosecuted by the DA. As I said, the rights holder can allow you to publish the text for free, but allowing you to change the name on the cover is null and void, and the DA's office job:).

BTW, Uncle, is Mrs Barker aware of Phil supposedly persecuting gay guys for religious reasons? She just might take a different view of that.

Though on second thought, it's best to leave those people be, and enjoy the peace and quiet. People can compare your account and theirs, and decide on their own;).

Don't know; I leave all this to the lawyers.

Nope; this is a new bit, and as the guy making the allegations is part of the Five Empires crowd that gave her (and I) such a bad time, I expect she'll ignore the whole thing. If she does hear about it, then those people will never, ever get a deal from her to publish Tekumel.

That's what I'm doing; whatever thy do has no effect on what I do in my game room, so - for all intents and purposes - I just don't worry about their antics.

Quote from: altfritz;956406I've already contacted SoA. They stated that the rights belong with the author. Or, in this case, the Foundation. But it sounds like (per Chirine) that all the Slingshot issues are already in their hands. I only have a partial collection...there may be other contributions as well...letters, articles, etc.

Actually, since it's not a Tekumel-related article - I've read it - the rights belong to the Barker Estate and don't fall under the Foundation's license for Tekumel materials. (I'd consult an IP lawyer, of course.) As for other materials, yes, and they do shed a lot of light on Phil's gaming philosophy.

Quote from: altfritz;956409DID YOU SAY HYBORIA CAMPAIGN MANUSCRIPT? :eek:

That would be valuable!

Howard

It looked like a manuscript to the 'Running A Wargames Campaign' book that was later published, but yes, I did see some new to me Hyborian materials in the loose pages.

Quote from: altfritz;956410I notice online that Professor Barker's miniatures fought in a battle at a recent con. Possibly Con of the North.

Nope; those were Bill Acheson's figures at Con of the North.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;956442Don't know about Con of the North, but they were used at GaryCon.

This. Paul Stormberg called me up the week before Gary Con two years ago, and told me that he had no figures for the "Legions" game that he wanted to put on at the convention the next weekend. His idea was that Gronan, on his way through the Twin Cities, could pick up my miniatures collection and bring it down to the con for the game; otherwise, they'd have to cancel the event. I have a very strict policy against loaning anything out, especially if I'm not going to be there for the event, so I said no to him. I then suggested that me should contact the Foundation and get the loan of Phil's figures, and that's what happened. Gronan can tell you more, I'm sure.