Quote from: chirine ba kal;1046412I hope he doesn't get in trouble for doing so.

Sad this this is even a possible concern.
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Quote from: chirine ba kal;1046412...not to use the phrase "Thursday Night Group" to describe anyone or anything other then himself and his fellow gamers. In order to respect this, that's why I always refer to "the original Thursday Night Group" when referring to the group that I was in, 1976 - 1988

Somehow, this reminds me of This is Spinal Tap, where the band was going to call themselves The Originals but had to change their name to the New Originals.

Blaise

Quote from: chirine ba kal;1046412Why would it be? These are "Barker's Own", and the Thursday Night Group is their property.-snip-.

Just a bit of sarcasm Chirine.

Quote from: Greentongue;1046429Sad this this is even a possible concern.
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Agreed. I've had direct experience of two people being threatened with the loss of their publishing licenses if they talk to me, so it is a concern.

Quote from: bconsidine;1046475Somehow, this reminds me of This is Spinal Tap, where the band was going to call themselves The Originals but had to change their name to the New Originals.

Blaise

Agreed. I thought that it was more then a little bizarre, especially as none of them had actually spent much time in the original TNG; these are all very late 1980s to early 1990s players. I thought that it was also pretty funny that the one Director who was one of the original 1975 players was not included in the podcast, but there it is.

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;1046513Just a bit of sarcasm Chirine.

I know. I'm playing the straight man in this comedy.

Anyone for a quick chorus of "Hooray For Captain Spaulding"?

Quote from: chirine ba kal;1046540I know. I'm playing the straight man in this comedy.

Anyone for a quick chorus of "Hooray For Captain Spaulding"?

Understood.

Of course Lord Chirine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BMtqqHRvB8

Quote from: chirine ba kal;1046539Agreed. I thought that it was more then a little bizarre, especially as none of them had actually spent much time in the original TNG; these are all very late 1980s to early 1990s players. I thought that it was also pretty funny that the one Director who was one of the original 1975 players was not included in the podcast, but there it is.

How very Stalinesque. I can picture the airbrushes coming out as we speak...
I plan on listening to it tonight, after supper, when I retire to the paint bench, which also happens to be in the ice cool basement, and work on my troops for my SYW army. Hopefully, I can get a good start on my Musketeers and Jagers and knock  off of a battalion of each by Monday. It's a long weekend up here, hotter than hell, and there's not much to do but keep cool, drink beer, and barbeque. Oh, and of course paint some miniatures.

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;1046657How very Stalinesque. I can picture the airbrushes coming out as we speak...
I plan on listening to it tonight, after supper, when I retire to the paint bench, which also happens to be in the ice cool basement, and work on my troops for my SYW army. Hopefully, I can get a good start on my Musketeers and Jagers and knock  off of a battalion of each by Monday. It's a long weekend up here, hotter than hell, and there's not much to do but keep cool, drink beer, and barbeque. Oh, and of course paint some miniatures.

The airbrushes have been at work for some years, now. Dr. Raymond really needs coaching in how to keep his mouth closed or in how to think before speaking, especially in front of people who know better.

Same hot weather here; I have to load Der Bug for tomorrow's game, but I'll do it after the current storm passes.

And yes, the 'casts are worth listening to as they're likely to be about the only glimpses into Phil's 1990's games we're likely to ever get.

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;1046394Hey All,

In case anyone is interested there is a new podcast up on the Hall of Blue Illumination. I haven't listened to it yet, but I it's about the Thursday Night Group. Funny thing is that neither Chirine or Gronan appear to be part of the discussion. That's odd :rolleyes:

(The following note is about how Lord Chirine ba Kal is actually a Temple of Thumis mole working deep inside the Temple of Vimuhla).

At the end of the podcast, some far-out bits that would require a lot of explaining are mentioned, including the appearance of ... the Silver Suits. Nothing else is mentioned about these "Silver Suits" however. Nothing about what they are or what do they look like, etc. Same with the other bits. We just get a quick detail ("the Silver Suits showed up!") aaaaand ... nothing.
If this Tekumel podcast (a good one too) is supposed to be about sharing information and making it easier for people to get into Prof. Barker's genius creation, then why not take this opportunity to describe what the Silver Suites are?

Well, of course, we know why these beings and some of the other details mentioned at that moment in the podcast are not expanded upon. It's because of self-aggrandizement: the people mentioning those obscure details do it to sound important and knowledgeable in their own little obscure bubble of existence; 'cause, in the end, no one gives a hoot. They're gate-keepers who, really, don't want to let anyone in; anyone but a few chosen ones.
... kinda like priests of Ksarul, don't you think?

"Lord Ksarul seeks knowledge for the sake of power, power that is the individual's greatest instinctive goal. Indeed, if a society is to exist at all, it must be for reasons of individual aggrandizement, (...)" - From The Mitlanyal (pge 143).

Yes, while listening to this podcast, it suddenly dawned on me that I was getting a perfect illustration of what clerics of Ksarul probably sound like and are about: sharing scraps of information with the plebs, while keeping the super interesting bits to themselves (that there was another Thursday Night Group, what the Silver Suits are, etc.), to remain in control and, in their petty minds, to remain relevant and powerful; this is also illustrated by how the Foundation has actually managed to make the world of Tekumel even less relevant than it was a few years ago.

This led me to consider what Chirine has been doing in this thread all this time: sharing information to help the world of Tekumel become less daunting to get into (we actually know, thanks to this thread, what the Silver Suits are) and making this hobby (a tiny part of it) better ... which is pretty much how clerics of Thumis would go about doing things.

"Secrets and ignorance are shadows, flaws in the Light which threaten the Stability of all things. To serve society and order, these shadows the must be eradicated through the illumination of teaching, learning, contemplation, and wisdom. Invigorated by the Light, society can better serve the Gods." - From The Mitlanyal (pge 67).

So, Chrinie ba Kal, are you a Thumis mole?

Quote from: Neshm hiKumala;1046749
(The following note is about how Lord Chirine ba Kal is actually a Temple of Thumis mole working deep inside the Temple of Vimuhla).

At the end of the podcast, some far-out bits that would require a lot of explaining are mentioned, including the appearance of ... the Silver Suits. Nothing else is mentioned about these "Silver Suits" however. Nothing about what they are or what do they look like, etc. Same with the other bits. We just get a quick detail ("the Silver Suits showed up!") aaaaand ... nothing.
If this Tekumel podcast (a good one too) is supposed to be about sharing information and making it easier for people to get into Prof. Barker's genius creation, then why not take this opportunity to describe what the Silver Suites are?

Well, of course, we know why these beings and some of the other details mentioned at that moment in the podcast are not expanded upon. It's because of self-aggrandizement: the people mentioning those obscure details do it to sound important and knowledgeable in their own little obscure bubble of existence; 'cause, in the end, no one gives a hoot. They're gate-keepers who, really, don't want to let anyone in; anyone but a few chosen ones.
... kinda like priests of Ksarul, don't you think?

"Lord Ksarul seeks knowledge for the sake of power, power that is the individual's greatest instinctive goal. Indeed, if a society is to exist at all, it must be for reasons of individual aggrandizement, (...)" - From The Mitlanyal (pge 143).

Yes, while listening to this podcast, it suddenly dawned on me that I was getting a perfect illustration of what clerics of Ksarul probably sound like and are about: sharing scraps of information with the plebs, while keeping the super interesting bits to themselves (that there was another Thursday Night Group, what the Silver Suits are, etc.), to remain in control and, in their petty minds, to remain relevant and powerful; this is also illustrated by how the Foundation has actually managed to make the world of Tekumel even less relevant than it was a few years ago.

This led me to consider what Chirine has been doing in this thread all this time: sharing information to help the world of Tekumel become less daunting to get into (we actually know, thanks to this thread, what the Silver Suits are) and making this hobby (a tiny part of it) better ... which is pretty much how clerics of Thumis would go about doing things.

"Secrets and ignorance are shadows, flaws in the Light which threaten the Stability of all things. To serve society and order, these shadows the must be eradicated through the illumination of teaching, learning, contemplation, and wisdom. Invigorated by the Light, society can better serve the Gods." - From The Mitlanyal (pge 67).

So, Chrinie ba Kal, are you a Thumis mole?

Well, Chirinie is certainly a mole, but I don't think Chirine is one..

Excellent analysis and comparison BTW.
I had never  seen the parallel before, but now that you point it out it seems obvious.

Shemek.

Quote from: Neshm hiKumala;1046749
(The following note is about how Lord Chirine ba Kal is actually a Temple of Thumis mole working deep inside the Temple of Vimuhla).

[snipped for length, sorry]

This led me to consider what Chirine has been doing in this thread all this time: sharing information to help the world of Tekumel become less daunting to get into (we actually know, thanks to this thread, what the Silver Suits are) and making this hobby (a tiny part of it) better ... which is pretty much how clerics of Thumis would go about doing things.

"Secrets and ignorance are shadows, flaws in the Light which threaten the Stability of all things. To serve society and order, these shadows the must be eradicated through the illumination of teaching, learning, contemplation, and wisdom. Invigorated by the Light, society can better serve the Gods." - From The Mitlanyal (pge 67).

So, Chrinie ba Kal, are you a Thumis mole?

No, I am not, and never have been. I am, and always will be, of The Flame. The Flame illuminates and cleanses, and drives out the dark. I've been doing this since 1976, and I'll keep doing it until I'm dead - and even then, "To Serve The Petal Throne" wll live on, telling people about the Phil I knew and his creation.

Your post is possibly the saddest - and most accurate! - thing I've ever read. I'm sorry that it's true.

A long time ago, a mighty and powerful wizard called a guy a "paladin" because he fought for what he believed in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgjM0gGLXQ

I still do, Gary, and thank you for the compliment.

Quote from: Neshm hiKumala;1046749
(The following note is about how Lord Chirine ba Kal is actually a Temple of Thumis mole working deep inside the Temple of Vimuhla).

[snipped for length, sorry]

This led me to consider what Chirine has been doing in this thread all this time: sharing information to help the world of Tekumel become less daunting to get into (we actually know, thanks to this thread, what the Silver Suits are) and making this hobby (a tiny part of it) better ... which is pretty much how clerics of Thumis would go about doing things.

"Secrets and ignorance are shadows, flaws in the Light which threaten the Stability of all things. To serve society and order, these shadows the must be eradicated through the illumination of teaching, learning, contemplation, and wisdom. Invigorated by the Light, society can better serve the Gods." - From The Mitlanyal (pge 67).

So, Chrinie ba Kal, are you a Thumis mole?

No, I am not, and never have been. I am, and always will be, of The Flame. The Flame illuminates and cleanses, and drives out the dark. I've been doing this since 1976, and I'll keep doing it until I'm dead - and even then, "To Serve The Petal Throne" wll live on, telling people about the Phil I knew and his creation.

Your post is possibly the saddest - and most accurate! - thing I've ever read. I'm sorry that it's true.

A long time ago, a mighty and powerful wizard called a guy a "paladin" because he fought for what he believed in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgjM0gGLXQ

I still do, Gary, and thank you for the compliment.

Quote from: Neshm hiKumala;1046749
(The following note is about how Lord Chirine ba Kal is actually a Temple of Thumis mole working deep inside the Temple of Vimuhla).

At the end of the podcast, some far-out bits that would require a lot of explaining are mentioned, including the appearance of ... the Silver Suits. Nothing else is mentioned about these "Silver Suits" however. Nothing about what they are or what do they look like, etc. Same with the other bits. We just get a quick detail ("the Silver Suits showed up!") aaaaand ... nothing.
If this Tekumel podcast (a good one too) is supposed to be about sharing information and making it easier for people to get into Prof. Barker's genius creation, then why not take this opportunity to describe what the Silver Suites are?

Well, of course, we know why these beings and some of the other details mentioned at that moment in the podcast are not expanded upon. It's because of self-aggrandizement: the people mentioning those obscure details do it to sound important and knowledgeable in their own little obscure bubble of existence; 'cause, in the end, no one gives a hoot. They're gate-keepers who, really, don't want to let anyone in; anyone but a few chosen ones.
... kinda like priests of Ksarul, don't you think?

"Lord Ksarul seeks knowledge for the sake of power, power that is the individual's greatest instinctive goal. Indeed, if a society is to exist at all, it must be for reasons of individual aggrandizement, (...)" - From The Mitlanyal (pge 143).

Yes, while listening to this podcast, it suddenly dawned on me that I was getting a perfect illustration of what clerics of Ksarul probably sound like and are about: sharing scraps of information with the plebs, while keeping the super interesting bits to themselves (that there was another Thursday Night Group, what the Silver Suits are, etc.), to remain in control and, in their petty minds, to remain relevant and powerful; this is also illustrated by how the Foundation has actually managed to make the world of Tekumel even less relevant than it was a few years ago.

This led me to consider what Chirine has been doing in this thread all this time: sharing information to help the world of Tekumel become less daunting to get into (we actually know, thanks to this thread, what the Silver Suits are) and making this hobby (a tiny part of it) better ... which is pretty much how clerics of Thumis would go about doing things.

"Secrets and ignorance are shadows, flaws in the Light which threaten the Stability of all things. To serve society and order, these shadows the must be eradicated through the illumination of teaching, learning, contemplation, and wisdom. Invigorated by the Light, society can better serve the Gods." - From The Mitlanyal (pge 67).

So, Chrinie ba Kal, are you a Thumis mole?

No, I am not, and never have been. I am, and always will be, of The Flame. The Flame illuminates and cleanses, and drives out the dark. I've been doing this since 1976, and I'll keep doing it until I'm dead - and even then, "To Serve The Petal Throne" wll live on, telling people about the Phil I knew and his creation.

Your post is possibly the saddest - and most accurate! - thing I've ever read. I'm sorry that it's true.

A long time ago, a mighty and powerful wizard called a guy a "paladin" because he fought for what he believed in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgjM0gGLXQ

I still do, Gary, and thank you for the compliment.

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;1046755Well, Chirinie is certainly a mole, but I don't think Chirine is one..

Excellent analysis and comparison BTW.
I had never  seen the parallel before, but now that you point it out it seems obvious.

Shemek.

Agreed. We go on. Off to today's game!