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Questioning chirine ba kal - part II

Started by AsenRG, April 23, 2017, 01:00:06 PM

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Greentongue

Quote from: David Johansen;1041052Oh well, one thing I've learned is that people rarely want to change the way they're used to doing things or try something new.

There is this crazy idea that people who play RPGs are more open minded than those that don't.
I have not found this to be the case.
I guess it is why people complain about "another Tolken knockoff" and yet will only play in those type of settings.
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Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: ffilz;1041095I wonder how attendance at things like that is today?

Just fine.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

ffilz

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1041146Just fine.

Hmm, and how many of those activities are aging? As I understand it, Model Railroading is aging.

For myself, I'm happiest when I have a regularly scheduled game with regular attendance. I haven't had that since before I got married... Married life has made it harder for me to make the commitment, but as the kids get older it is getting easier and I'm trying to kick something off again. I'm interested in seeing if it's possible to get a solid Roll20 game going at a Pacific Time Zone post kids bedtime time frame. It wouldn't work for me to go to somewhere else to play and it doesn't work for me to host a game at home, so Roll20 is the best bet. The past year and a half or so hasn't been a very good selling point so far... I know there are some good regular games, I haven't noticed any that are Pacific Time Zone...

I like a weekly schedule so that when I invariably have to skip a game session due to a business trip or some other conflict the game doesn't get totally lost. I think also weekly helps keep the game in people's minds so it doesn't become victim to other priorities.

Frank

Hermes Serpent

#2793
Just noticed on G+ that Victor Raymond is in Paris and attending UK Games Expo this weekend. His comment about attending for the Tekumel game had me scratching my head as I'm running (I think) the only Tekumel game at the weekend. So it'll be interesting to say the least as that's two Tekumel fans/grognards that'll be in the game to the best of my knowledge and me being a recent convert.

Still having run World War Cthulhu for one of the authors (Jason Durell)  and Ken Rolston (major game developer) a few weeks back nothing fazes me.

Edit: Actually found out via a follow up post that he's there for the con and dropping off some goodies at the game rather than playing, whew relief, pressures off.

Greentongue

Quote from: Hermes Serpent;1041429Just noticed on G+ that Victor Raymond is in Paris and attending UK Games Expo this weekend.
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... rather than playing, whew relief, pressures off.

Your game is Your Game.
Besides maybe some interesting suggestions he could give, I'm not sure why it matters what he thinks of how you run Your Game.

The concern about confirming to some "Standard" seems to stop more games than anything else.
In My Opinion, you should take the parts you like from the setting and add whatever You think fits, then run with it.
People that don't like your version don't need to play.
There will always be someone that thinks how you do it is wrong and if you let that stop you, you'll never play.

If most at the table are having fun, you are doing it right.
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Hermes Serpent

Normally I wouldn't care, but with the stress on one true wayism by the Foundation running a Tekumel game is more stressful than running a Glorantha game or just about anything else.

Running a game for the game's writer is stressful as I know I'm probably not running the game the way they would but as you say it's my game and they can only criticise of I totally screw it up/forget the rules or whatever.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Hermes Serpent;1041429Just noticed on G+ that Victor Raymond is in Paris and attending UK Games Expo this weekend. His comment about attending for the Tekumel game had me scratching my head as I'm running (I think) the only Tekumel game at the weekend. So it'll be interesting to say the least as that's two Tekumel fans/grognards that'll be in the game to the best of my knowledge and me being a recent convert.

Still having run World War Cthulhu for one of the authors (Jason Durell)  and Ken Rolston (major game developer) a few weeks back nothing fazes me.

Edit: Actually found out via a follow up post that he's there for the con and dropping off some goodies at the game rather than playing, whew relief, pressures off.

Victor rarely does anything besides schmoozing at conventions; he's there for the prestige of being an important person. I think it's great; it helps him a lot with his insecurities.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Greentongue;1041437Your game is Your Game.
Besides maybe some interesting suggestions he could give, I'm not sure why it matters what he thinks of how you run Your Game.

The concern about confirming to some "Standard" seems to stop more games than anything else.
In My Opinion, you should take the parts you like from the setting and add whatever You think fits, then run with it.
People that don't like your version don't need to play.
There will always be someone that thinks how you do it is wrong and if you let that stop you, you'll never play.

If most at the table are having fun, you are doing it right.
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I would think so too, but I'm told by players at the FLGS that by-the-book is the only way to play. Which maybe why I don't play much, these days.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Hermes Serpent;1041440Normally I wouldn't care, but with the stress on one true wayism by the Foundation running a Tekumel game is more stressful than running a Glorantha game or just about anything else.

Running a game for the game's writer is stressful as I know I'm probably not running the game the way they would but as you say it's my game and they can only criticise of I totally screw it up/forget the rules or whatever.

Agreed, which is what's killing the thing. But, better no Tekumel then not-our-Tekumel, as they've said in the past.

chirine ba kal

#2799
If I may be permitted a personal observation, the situation here in local fandom has gone beyond weird into farce. Will Shetterly and Emma Bull being banned from the convention they founded is, for me, just too damn funny; these, along with Dr. Raymond, were the people who moved to exclude most of local fandom from their private party. Gronan is fond of saying "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!", and this has certainly been the case. Dr. Raymond and Mr. Alberti, along with Ms. Fregni, led the charge to make Tekumel as exclusive as possible back at the same time as The Great Purge of Minicon; it's made them, in their social circles, Very Important People, but it does not seem to have made Tekumel one of the great powerhouses of the hobby. Given that the two active people are some of the most passive-aggressive people I've ever met, and their fellow directors some of the most inert and passive I've ever met, I would be quite surprised to see anything change in the future.

Too bad. Phil's creation deserves better treatment then what it's gotten since Phil passed away.

I'll still be doing what I can; the book continues to get written, despite it being condemned as TL;DR, and that - I think - will be my contribution. As Greentongue says, play the game your way.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Hermes Serpent;1041440Normally I wouldn't care, but with the stress on one true wayism by the Foundation running a Tekumel game is more stressful than running a Glorantha game or just about anything else.

Running a game for the game's writer is stressful as I know I'm probably not running the game the way they would but as you say it's my game and they can only criticise of I totally screw it up/forget the rules or whatever.

Just nod in agreement a lot. He likes unquestioning loyalty and faith; just don't mention that you know me, as that seems to really set him off.

Sorry; feeling cranky, this morning. It was a long night at work, it'll be longer tonight, and I'm helping a friend with a game this coming weekend. Lots of work, for very little thanks.

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: chirine ba kal;1041463Just nod in agreement a lot. He likes unquestioning loyalty and faith; just don't mention that you know me, as that seems to really set him off.

Sorry; feeling cranky, this morning. It was a long night at work, it'll be longer tonight, and I'm helping a friend with a game this coming weekend. Lots of work, for very little thanks.

Jeez, at least people at GaryCon say they're having fun!

But I'm spending more and more of my time there playing miniatures wargames.  Make of that what you will.  ("I could make a hat, or a corsage, or a pterodactyl, or...")

Speaking of which, you have GOT to play World War Tesla.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Willie the Duck

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1041474But I'm spending more and more of my time there playing miniatures wargames.  Make of that what you will.  ("I could make a hat, or a corsage, or a pterodactyl, or...")

That sounds like the start of a Firesign Theatre routine, where you have to guess what the yak and the scuba gear are for...

Fiasco

Quote from: chirine ba kal;1041460Given that the two active people are some of the most passive-aggressive people I've ever met, and their fellow directors some of the most inert and passive I've ever met, I would be quite surprised to see anything change in the future.

This made me laugh.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1041474Jeez, at least people at GaryCon say they're having fun!

But I'm spending more and more of my time there playing miniatures wargames.  Make of that what you will.  ("I could make a hat, or a corsage, or a pterodactyl, or...")

Speaking of which, you have GOT to play World War Tesla.

Agreed; the two friends I'm helping out will say thank you - it's their players that I don't anything from. All I'm doing is bringing the scenery and some miniatures, so I'm planning on bringing a good book and sitting quietly off in the corner.

Also agreed. Our Accounts Receivable were all paid today, so I can afford my Zulu regiments. It looks like my old Tangier Garrison campaign will get a new start, and some new old faces on the front lines. Usual mix of historical oddities, low humor, and casual mayhem. I'm really getting enthused about going the Tony Bath route, with the meta-game driving what goes on the table for fights; it combines my love of building things with the infinite potential of the Internet.

Fat Dragon does some nice stuff, don't they? Pity about the size, but I know this guy who can scale it up to God's Own Scale... :)