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Ptolus Kickstarter Quotes Good Review from RPGsite, SJWs Make Them Take It Down

Started by RPGPundit, February 18, 2020, 05:05:10 PM

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Have you guys heard about this?  The Ptolus Kickstarter is apparently happening, and in it Monte Cook (or Germain or whoever is running it) quoted a bunch of good reviews from earlier editions of Ptolus. One of these was from theRPGsite.

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But the Twitter SJWs went frantic about this and alerted Monte Cook that they were quoting an evil site that allows Free Speech and diversity of opinions and that if Cook didn't take it down he's a nazi.

But of course, Monte Cook isn't a Nazi. Monte Cook is an RPG Maoist.

So he immediately conceded and took down the image that the Twitter SJWs were so scared of.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Snowman0147;1122538All it tells me is to avoid this kickstarter now.

Well if it is by Monte Cook one always should avoid giving him any money.
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deadDMwalking

That's misattribution.  The RPG Site doesn't review books; individuals on this site review books.  

That's from ColonelHardisson's review.  Now, maybe ColonelHardisson's reviews don't carry any cachet with the gaming public, but that's who they need to attribute the quote to.  

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Shasarak

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1122542Well if it is by Monte Cook one always should avoid giving him any money.

Speak for yourself, I am not missing out on Ptolus a second time so I am giving him all the moneys.

And dont even talk to me about the cost of shipping that bad boy.
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Almost_Useless

This could be a fun game to play.  Let's look at the other reviews through that lens.

"reviewed on Amazon" -- Isn't Amazon a giant corporation that makes their money by nearly working their warehouse staff to death?  That may not be one to go with.

"reviewed on DriveThruRPG" -- Seriously?  They *still* sell stuff by Zak Smith and James Raggi.

"reviewed on Goodreads" -- Goodreads has Mein Kampf with a rating of 3.16 / 5 stars.  THAT'S A POSITIVE RATING FOR ACTUAL NAZI PROPAGANDA.

cenmarik

Gut guy looks like a failed flippin the bird attempt. Plus did that lizard person consent to being roped up like that?

Shawn Driscoll

Quote from: RPGPundit;1122524Have you guys heard about this?  The Ptolus Kickstarter is apparently happening, and in it Monte Cook (or Germain or whoever is running it) quoted a bunch of good reviews from earlier editions of Ptolus. One of these was from theRPGsite.
And on top of that, KickStarter's gatekeeper is an SJW. Indiegogo doesn't have that problem.

Scrivener of Doom

Quote from: Shasarak;1122565Speak for yourself, I am not missing out on Ptolus a second time so I am giving him all the moneys.

And dont even talk to me about the cost of shipping that bad boy.

They're shipping to Kiwiland from Oz so the cost should not be too prohibitive.
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Spinachcat

Post the Twitter wanking! Sounds like good LOLZ.

Monte Cook is crazily overrated. I remember the constant wankery over his stuff in the 3e days, but I don't think I ever saw his stuff being played at actual tables. I've read some of the original Ptolus, and while it isn't bad, it isn't notable either. It's overpriced toilet reading for people who read game books instead of novels while dropping a deuce.

RPGPundit

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1122563That's misattribution.  The RPG Site doesn't review books; individuals on this site review books.  

That's from ColonelHardisson's review.  Now, maybe ColonelHardisson's reviews don't carry any cachet with the gaming public, but that's who they need to attribute the quote to.  

I would be extremely put out if any of my personal opinions were applied universally to the members of this forum knowing how few of them agree with me.

Well, I agree that the reviewer should be cited, but the point is that the reviews here are not done by staff or something like that. They're open and free speech.
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Quote from: Spinachcat;1122579Post the Twitter wanking! Sounds like good LOLZ.

Monte Cook is crazily overrated. I remember the constant wankery over his stuff in the 3e days, but I don't think I ever saw his stuff being played at actual tables. I've read some of the original Ptolus, and while it isn't bad, it isn't notable either. It's overpriced toilet reading for people who read game books instead of novels while dropping a deuce.

I remember a group that was convinced to play Numenera. The game was organized by the FLGS owner, and he pushed for everyone to get the book (and offered a 15% discount).After everybody had bought the book, the game folded in less than a month. Shortly after that, several copies of almost-new Numenera were on the used shelf and the FLGS owner stopped ordering further Numenera products. I heard that everyone tried to like the game, but they all ended up hating the way it plays.

Marchand

A tale of people who are either sinister or idiots or both, behaving badly about a review that was anyway misattributed; what a depressing display of fuckwittery.

At least I don't care about Ptolus, which seems to be intended (explicitly I think) as a crystallisation of the implicit setting of kitchen-sink 3E and now 5E. It is totally normal to see dragonborn and tieflings wandering around the streets! Low-level magic is commonly used and appropriately regulated! Says the blurb as near literally as I can manage without going and checking the site again. So... the fantasy elements become just everyday shit that happens. Does that not kind of miss the point?
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Quote from: Almost_Useless;1122568This could be a fun game to play.  Let's look at the other reviews through that lens.

"reviewed on Amazon" -- Isn't Amazon a giant corporation that makes their money by nearly working their warehouse staff to death?  That may not be one to go with.

"reviewed on DriveThruRPG" -- Seriously?  They *still* sell stuff by Zak Smith and James Raggi.

"reviewed on Goodreads" -- Goodreads has Mein Kampf with a rating of 3.16 / 5 stars.  THAT'S A POSITIVE RATING FOR ACTUAL NAZI PROPAGANDA.

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