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Psionics and 5E, are they never going to happen?

Started by danskmacabre, March 24, 2015, 06:19:38 PM

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danskmacabre

March 24, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
I remember Psionics from the old ADnD.
I did use it for a bit and it seemed kind of messy and sort of "bolted on in a bad way".

However I remember certain monsters really relied on being defined in this way, such as Mind Flayers and some other monsters.
Given that Mind Flayers have their abilities defined in a different way now, are Psionics dead now for 5E?

I can't say that I will particularly miss Psionics, but I am curious as to whether it's dead in the water now.

Omega

#1
March 24, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
If I recall correctly they dusted off Psionics again for 3e. But after that not sure if they hit it for versions after.

I have a feeling if it does show up it will be an Arcana Unearthed article.

With the optional spellpoint system you could emulate psi by just using the point system and renaming spells.

In a way the Warlock works like a pseudo-psi as a chunk of their magic is internal rather than slots.

danskmacabre

#2
March 24, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
So perhaps an optional rule rather than anything core.
Which would make sense given they've redesigned previously Psionic monsters.

FaerieGodfather

#3
March 25, 2015, 02:13:17 PM
It'll happen eventually. Too much demand for it not to.
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Sacrosanct

#4
March 25, 2015, 02:44:06 PM
Yep.  It will happen.  But just be patient.  The core books have only been out a few months.
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Omega

#5
March 25, 2015, 04:53:56 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;822046Yep.  It will happen.  But just be patient.  The core books have only been out a few months.

Optimally theyd put the psi stuff in a Gamma World set that is 100% compatible with 5e and just let players mix and match as they please.

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#6
March 27, 2015, 12:31:40 AM
I'm sure that sooner or later they will happen in some form or another.
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#7
March 27, 2015, 01:10:29 AM
wait did the refluff the mind flayers abilitys as magical
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danskmacabre

#8
March 27, 2015, 01:13:51 AM
Quote from: tuypo1;822386wait did the refluff the mind flayers abilitys as magical

Yeah basically. Seeing as there's no psionics, they didn't have much choice.

Emperor Norton

#9
March 27, 2015, 07:55:26 AM
I imagine that when they do psionics rules, they could just add in an alternate stat block for historically psi creatures.

tuypo1

#10
March 27, 2015, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: danskmacabre;822388Yeah basically. Seeing as there's no psionics, they didn't have much choice.

there weren't rules for psionics in 3e at first either past the non magical psionics varient (which i do use) and they still had psionic lilithids
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tenbones

#11
March 27, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
What I didn't like in 3.x/PF Psionics is the notion that "Psionics" should just consist of creating the Psionic equivalents of *everything* non-psionic then PF's version took it further parsing each of those out to include archetypes within each class that overlapped with another main class.

This is not to say I don't think there shouldn't be Class-equivalents - Psion/Wizard for instance. But I don't think *every* class should have a Psionic equivalent. Heck - I'd roll Soulknife into Psychic Warrior as an Archetype. And have a bricky Archetype to bookend it.

I'm a Dark Sun fan. I'm already jonesing for this stuff...

Emperor Norton

#12
March 27, 2015, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: tenbones;822436This is not to say I don't think there shouldn't be Class-equivalents - Psion/Wizard for instance. But I don't think *every* class should have a Psionic equivalent. Heck - I'd roll Soulknife into Psychic Warrior as an Archetype. And have a bricky Archetype to bookend it.

Would be easier just to make Psychic Warrior a Fighter archetype and Soulknife as a Rogue Archetype and just add one class: Psion.

Jame Rowe

#13
April 01, 2015, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Emperor Norton;822471Would be easier just to make Psychic Warrior a Fighter archetype and Soulknife as a Rogue Archetype and just add one class: Psion.

I actually liked what AD&D 2 did where you were just a psion, and added in new subtypes as you gained in level.
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#14
April 01, 2015, 11:09:37 AM
I think mearls said that they will probably fold psionic rules into a future adventure set in athas or something since its a thing dark sun requires to function and thus an easy way to add the rules without needing a 4th rulebook.
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