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Proposed: New Gaming Theory

Started by Dr Rotwang!, October 08, 2006, 02:09:06 PM

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Dr Rotwang!

October 08, 2006, 02:09:06 PM
We've heard of GNS -- Gamist/Narrative/Simulationist.  I leave debate of its validity to the thousands of words, threads and invectives already dedicated to it, and purposefully take no relative stance myself.  Its place in this argument is neutral and illustrative, nothing more.

I propose a different theory of gaming, and, in honor of Jeff Rients, name it GFS Theory.  The "G" stands for "Giant", the "F" stands for "Fucking", and the "S" stands for "Spiders".  

The theory's basic tenets:

  • Holy shit!
  • Giant fucking spiders!
  • We're in trouble if we don't think of something!
  • Oh, no, they got the professor!
Its use should be obvious.  I'd sit around and expound upon it from my leather setee, but I'm going to take my kid to Grandma's so I can go get a haircut and visit the Red Cross Book Fair.  Plus, I got a game tonight.
Dr Rotwang!
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Mr. Analytical

#1
October 08, 2006, 02:56:26 PM
I'm actually a proponent of GNU.

As in "what would I rather do?  play this game, or stick my head up a Gnu's arse?"  You'll find it's useful in helping disfunctional gamers to improve their game.

jrients

#2
October 08, 2006, 06:06:00 PM
Dude, if I had known the mileage you've gotten out of those three words I would have written them ages ago.

Point 4 cracked my ass up.
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mattormeg

#3
October 08, 2006, 07:10:19 PM
I've always assumed that GNS stood for "Got No Sense" theory.

As in, "Why the hell am I even worrying about this crap? Man, I must got no sense at all."

Dr Rotwang!

#4
October 08, 2006, 07:11:38 PM
Word, Homey.  Or...whatever the kids say, I don't watch the MTV.  And I forgot the coupon so no haircut.

GNU is a great model of gaming-related thought as well.  I applaud it and encourage its dissemination throughout the land.
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fonkaygarry

#5
October 08, 2006, 07:20:28 PM
That Dr. Rotwang, he's the coolest guy I know!
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JamesV

#6
October 08, 2006, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: fonkaygarryThat Dr. Rotwang, he's the coolest guy I know!

It's the tie.

As much as I love this conversation there's not enough bickering over obscure terminology. I mean, what does spiders mean anyway? It sounds like it has a great deal to do with humanity's great search for the perfect dice collection.
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#7
October 08, 2006, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: JamesVIt's the tie.

As much as I love this conversation there's not enough bickering over obscure terminology. I mean, what does spiders mean anyway? It sounds like it has a great deal to do with humanity's great search for the perfect dice collection.
Fool! Spiders obviously refers to the dual Tolkeinian fallacy/drow fanboyism and why the fuck that has anything to do with EVERYTHING. Your experiences with Eight Legged Freaks means nothing, NUB!

Better?

fonkaygarry

#8
October 08, 2006, 08:40:15 PM
I will withhold the link of doom, which leads to erotic, giant spider based fiction.
teamchimp: I'm doing problem sets concerning inbreeding and effective population size.....I absolutely know this will get me the hot bitches.

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Christmas Ape

#9
October 09, 2006, 02:23:15 AM
Quote from: fonkaygarryI will withhold the link of doom, which leads to erotic, giant spider based fiction.
:eyecrazy: That is the worst sentence I have ever read. I cast thee out!!
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#10
October 09, 2006, 04:58:12 AM
Point 4 pretty much clinches it for me.
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#11
October 09, 2006, 12:06:19 PM
This got me thinking about this Blogger site I stumbled upon the other day.  I'm pretty sure the site has to be a joke (especially those definitions of what GNS stands for), because I can't imagine anyone writing seriously about this crap:

Quote          The Right Gaming Theory          

                               A lot of people gripe about G/N/S theory (for those of you that don't know, G/N/S stands for Gamerist, Narrationist, and Simulationalist), and I can partly understand that.  I've read the original G/N/S essay and the accompanying 124 vital tie-ins that the Forge people said I had to read to get it, but after discussing it with Professor Curtis, I now feel it is a little too elementary for my tastes.  Professor Curtis, when he isn't busy these days working through Philosophy 102 (I guess that's why he's the prof and not me, huh?) has a different classification theory for games that I feel works a bit better:


    Correctism:  Playing the correct games correctly; i.e. exploring deep social and moral themes, self-publishing games, ensuring said games are profound enough.  Games in this category:  Professor Curtis' games (inclusive), occasional Forge games.


    Pseudo-Correctism:  Playing games that are almost correct, but feature some form of combat or don't explore social themes and issues deeply enough or sacrifice profundity for entertainment.  Games in this category:  Capes, The Shadow of Yesterday.


            Wrongist:  Playing games that are the correct games incorrectly.  Examples:  having fun killing people in Dogs in the Vineyard, playing or translating Nobilis in plain English.


Bankruptism:  Playing games that lead to emotional and/or mental bankruptcy, or discourage people from enjoying more artistically important RPGs.  Examples:  Anything from Wizards of the Coast, Palladium, Steve Jackson Games, White Wolf (except Exalted, of course), and Hackmaster (which I hate to even be associated with by typing its name out).

    Now, any game you play can be defined in those terms, and if you can't do so, you're likely doing something wrong.
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beejazz

#12
October 09, 2006, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: fonkaygarryI will withhold the link of doom, which leads to erotic, giant spider based fiction.
At least it isn't DragonEarth.

God that thread went some awful places.

Zachary The First

#13
October 09, 2006, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: beejazzAt least it isn't DragonEarth.

God that thread went some awful places.

East St. Louis awful.
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#14
October 09, 2006, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Zachary The FirstThis got me thinking about this Blogger site I stumbled upon the other day.  I'm pretty sure the site has to be a joke (especially those definitions of what GNS stands for), because I can't imagine anyone writing seriously about this crap:
Oh my God!  That site is fuckin' hilarious!

And yes, I also read it as a joke.  I mean ... heh ... it'd be a little on the crazy-woo-woo side to read it as anything else.

People don't actually talk like this.  Honest.  It's a caricature of the way theorists are viewed by some of the more extreme theory-bashers.  But funnnnnny! :D
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