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Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2016, 04:31:57 PM
Anybody know any good places to find plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon? System doesn't matter much as I can adapt (using either Bushido or RuneQuest) as needed; it's mainly the ideas I'm looking to mine.

Also, does anyone recall if Sengoku or Oriental Adventures had any plots/adventures in them? I have the books but they are not available for me to check at the moment.

Finally, anyone know any good samurai warrior adventure novels? I've read Musashi but don't know any other good ones.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: JesterRaiin on March 23, 2016, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: Matt;886963Anybody know any good places to find plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon? System doesn't matter much as I can adapt (using either Bushido or RuneQuest) as needed; it's mainly the ideas I'm looking to mine.

http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0988818/ (http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0988818/)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gintama_episodes_%28season_1%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gintama_episodes_%28season_1%29)...and onwards

Yes, I realize what it is and what are you looking for. I still find it relevant to your needs.

Don't mind SF and comedy. See past those elements.

For example, a foreign visitor, who is also a collector of exotic animals, and gets into problem is an useful plot seed. Players might be tasked with assassination/thievery/spying/bodyguarding, etc....
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Bren on March 23, 2016, 05:01:34 PM
The Runequest 3rd edition supplement Land of Ninjas (https://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/48341/land-ninja) had some good scenario ideas. A 1980s version can be kind of pricey and I'm not sure if it is available as a PDF. May be worth checking out both from a system and scenarios standpoint.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Nihilistic Mind on March 23, 2016, 05:10:23 PM
As far as ideas, Challenge Focus Strike contests from the L5R (AEG) forum should give you plenty to look into.

CFS are usually short situation to resolve rather than entire scenarios etc.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Opaopajr on March 23, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
This will sound odd, but Legend of the Five Rings 1e Clan Books (including Shadowlands and Kolat) are a fantastic source.

The clan books are filled with world fleshing detail, which can be transformed into plot/hook fodder. But more importantly, I think, are the margins commentary. They are often filled with new and legendary items or locations or institutions already sprinkled hooks. Hooks are similarly sprinkled in the chapters themselves, too.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Bren on March 23, 2016, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;886985This will sound odd, but Legend of the Five Rings 1e Clan Books (including Shadowlands and Kolat) are a fantastic source.
Why would anyone think that sounded odd?
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Omega on March 23, 2016, 07:29:17 PM
Oriental Adventures had an event generator system. Yearly events like an Ambassador, Famine, Political Plot, and so on. Or monthly events like Bandit Activity, Hauntings, Bad weather, and so on. Combine that with the character background and birthright quirks and you can go fairly far.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2016, 07:35:45 PM
Quote from: JesterRaiin;886973For example, a foreign visitor, who is also a collector of exotic animals, and gets into problem is an useful plot seed. Players might be tasked with assassination/thievery/spying/bodyguarding, etc....

Thanks, I will look for episode summaries to see what can be stolen!
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2016, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: Omega;887015Oriental Adventures had an event generator system. Yearly events like an Ambassador, Famine, Political Plot, and so on. Or monthly events like Bandit Activity, Hauntings, Bad weather, and so on. Combine that with the character background and birthright quirks and you can go fairly far.

Great, I will have to look at that when I find the book. Haven't used it in ages and didn't realize that was in there.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2016, 07:38:19 PM
Quote from: Bren;886974The Runequest 3rd edition supplement Land of Ninjas (https://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/48341/land-ninja) had some good scenario ideas. A 1980s version can be kind of pricey and I'm not sure if it is available as a PDF. May be worth checking out both from a system and scenarios standpoint.

Thanks, I didn't realize there are about 35 pages of material of this sort in the back of the book! (Happen to have it right here with me.)
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2016, 07:40:07 PM
Any other free resources or novel suggestions?

(Haven't any disposable income at the moment so I can't look into anything that I have to buy. Maybe if I get a tax refund...oh wait, the kids want Legos and My Little Pony.)

THANKS TO ALL WHO ANSWERED!

(Also thanks to all who considered telling me the reasons my games of choice suck but refrained from doing so.)
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Spinachcat on March 23, 2016, 09:00:52 PM
The Oriental Adventures charts are quite good. It was fun to plot out a couple years, and then the PCs could encounter fortune telling and the GM could hint to stuff on the calendar.

We used them for Bushido way back when too.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;887033The Oriental Adventures charts are quite good. It was fun to plot out a couple years, and then the PCs could encounter fortune telling and the GM could hint to stuff on the calendar.

We used them for Bushido way back when too.


Sounds like a keen idea I may have to swipe.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Elfdart on March 23, 2016, 10:59:20 PM
Quote from: Matt;887021Any other free resources or novel suggestions?

(Haven't any disposable income at the moment so I can't look into anything that I have to buy. Maybe if I get a tax refund...oh wait, the kids want Legos and My Little Pony.)

THANKS TO ALL WHO ANSWERED!

(Also thanks to all who considered telling me the reasons my games of choice suck but refrained from doing so.)

Try Kurosawa movies. I use plot seeds/hooks from those films for any number of games and settings, because they're so universal. For example, in The Hidden Fortress the "heroes" are trying to smuggle a princess and her treasury past enemy lines. In The Seven Samurai the heroes are recruited to defend hapless peasants from brigands. A new coat of paint and these can be used in everything from westerns to space opera.

Also, don't be afraid to use seeds from other settings, like Kurosawa did when he used MacBeth as the basis for Throne of Blood, and King Lear for Ran.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Bren on March 23, 2016, 11:18:23 PM
Quote from: Elfdart;887050A new coat of paint and these can be used in everything from westerns to space opera.
I see what you did there.

Might as well steal Yojimbo while you are at it. It's a Noir Detective novel with a faded Mon painted over it. Which newer coats of paint then turned into a Spaghetti Western, a Military Sci Fi novel, and a Bruce Willis movie. It features two rival factions vying for control of a town and the hero(es) in the middle alternately pitting one side against the other to bring both of them down.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Matt on March 24, 2016, 12:48:52 AM
Quote from: Bren;887055I see what you did there.

Might as well steal Yojimbo while you are at it. It's a Noir Detective novel with a faded Mon painted over it. Which newer coats of paint then turned into a Spaghetti Western, a Military Sci Fi novel, and a Bruce Willis movie. It features two rival factions vying for control of a town and the hero(es) in the middle alternately pitting one side against the other to bring both of them down.


Yeah, that was Red Harvest by Dashiell Hammett. One of the Continental Op stories. So borrowed from him and then passed around quite a lot.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Opaopajr on March 24, 2016, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: Bren;886991Why would anyone think that sounded odd?

Some people don't like Wick's and company's writing. And some don't like the L5R pseudo-pan-Asia pastiche, especially of later L5R . (It was trying to get away from its Not-Japan stigma by trying to mix in more East Asian cultures on the periphery.) And then there's the poor grasp of clan, instead converted into a singular archetype/stereotype. And then there's the perpetually apocalyptic and soap opera-esque metaplot baggage over the years...

But I found the 1e Clan Books very well done in terms of very gameable bits and pieces along the edges. If this is a more faithful rendition to feudal Japan, plus fantasy, some would say such pastiche of garbled translations and baggage would be a poor source to start. However I am not so purist to say there are no good seeds from such a pile.

I think there is plenty of discrete material worth sifting and porting, without worry of "cross-contamination." And more of the periphery seed material.comes with plenty of colorful description to help make it more convertable to elsewhere.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Rincewind1 on March 25, 2016, 05:10:50 AM
The important question in any setting where interaction with rigid social structure will obviously occur, is to ask yourself who'll be the PCs - are they part of the structure, or as supposed in classic fantasy RPG campaigns, outsiders?

I'll post a few that came to my mind, though most apply to the latter:

Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Dave 2 on March 25, 2016, 05:39:06 AM
If you get a chance, check out the trilogy starting with Across the Nightingale Floor by Lian Hearn.  It's kind of Japan plus magic and ninjas, but very well done.

+1 for the 1e L5R books.  There's a lot of ideas there.  And speaking of the Challenge-Focus-Strike format, I was going to point you to the Alderac forums for a couple of good threads, but I see THEY NUKED THE FORUMS so never mind.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Nihilistic Mind on March 25, 2016, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: Dave R;887290but I see THEY NUKED THE FORUMS so never mind.

Arg! WHAT?!?
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Dave 2 on March 25, 2016, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: Nihilistic Mind;887371Arg! WHAT?!?

L5R's gone off Alderac's forum and nothing's up on Fantasy Flight's.  Google's got nothing.  I knew FF had bought the line, but I hadn't expected the forums to be orphaned this quickly.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Lynn on March 25, 2016, 06:04:37 PM
I am sure you can find them someplace on the 'net, but the Mito Komon series (http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Mito_Komon), a chambara TV show, is great for the 'wandering into town and sticking one's nose into it' sort of plots.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Opaopajr on March 25, 2016, 07:25:31 PM
It's rather tragic keeping up with AEG's downward spiral of the past decade. But it seems they gave up the ghost years ago and have been coasting on rabid fan goodwill. Seems like they had about as much gas as WW, but with stronger CCGs to drag out the inevitable a bit longer.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: kosmos1214 on March 26, 2016, 08:04:36 PM
Quote from: Matt;886963Anybody know any good places to find plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon? System doesn't matter much as I can adapt (using either Bushido or RuneQuest) as needed; it's mainly the ideas I'm looking to mine.

Also, does anyone recall if Sengoku or Oriental Adventures had any plots/adventures in them? I have the books but they are not available for me to check at the moment.

Finally, anyone know any good samurai warrior adventure novels? I've read Musashi but don't know any other good ones.

try
Carried by the Wind: Tsukikage Ran

the show is a parody of period drama so there are whole episodes that can have the plots ripped out
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Dave 2 on March 30, 2016, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: Nihilistic Mind;886977As far as ideas, Challenge Focus Strike contests from the L5R (AEG) forum should give you plenty to look into.

CFS are usually short situation to resolve rather than entire scenarios etc.

Okay, here's something (http://www.kazenoshiro.com/challenge-focus-strike/) that's still up.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Opaopajr on March 30, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
Quote from: Dave R;888513Okay, here's something (http://www.kazenoshiro.com/challenge-focus-strike/) that's still up.

Good find, thanks! At least the rabid fandom can keep some of the worthwhile creations in community circulation.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: kobayashi on March 31, 2016, 03:44:25 AM
The Tomoe Gozen Trilogy (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2015/03/available-as-ebooks-for-the-first-time-jessica-amanda-salmonsons-classic-fantasy-trilogy-the-tomoe-gozen-saga/) by Jessica Amanda Salmonson :


There's really good stuff in there, definitely check them out if you can.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Nihilistic Mind on March 31, 2016, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: Dave R;888513Okay, here's something (http://www.kazenoshiro.com/challenge-focus-strike/) that's still up.

Dude, you rock!
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: crkrueger on April 01, 2016, 08:16:17 AM
Quote from: Dave R;888513Okay, here's something (http://www.kazenoshiro.com/challenge-focus-strike/) that's still up.

On that site when you get to the
CFS Volume 1
CFS Volume 2 etc
part, the links for Volume 3 through Volume 9 all go to Volume 9.  Just change the url.

Foe example...
Changing
"http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-9.pdf"
to
"http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-3.pdf"
will get you Volume 3.


Screw it...
http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-3.pdf
http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-4.pdf
http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-5.pdf
http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-6.pdf
http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-7.pdf
http://www.kazenoshiro.com/fiction/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CFS-Volume-8.pdf
...there you go. :D
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Nihilistic Mind on April 04, 2016, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: CRKrueger;888846...there you go. :D

Awesome!
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Derabar on April 06, 2016, 07:49:45 AM
The Water Margin TV series (although tricky to find)  might give you some inspiration.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Water_Margin_(1973_TV_series).

There was a guy working on an rpg but it was never published as far as I know.

http://celestialempire.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/outlaws-of-water-margin.html?m=1
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Elfdart on August 26, 2017, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: Matt;887075Yeah, that was Red Harvest by Dashiell Hammett. One of the Continental Op stories. So borrowed from him and then passed around quite a lot.

I always thought Yojimbo had more in common with Buchanan Rides Alone -a much better movie than either Kurosawa's or Leone's versions.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: DiscoSoup on August 26, 2017, 11:26:23 PM
The novel Cloud of Sparrows by Takashi Matsuoka, and it's sequel, Autumn Bridge. They're set in the Meiji Era and have an equal focus on Japanese and American characters. I asked the author about them and he said that he wanted to do a samurai book and a Western book, so he put both into one story. It works very well. Slight fantasy elements that are kind of time-travelly. Like the "ghost" in the second book isn't a ghost at all, as Matsuoka explains in the first few pages, but someone from the past, long-dead, who is having a real-time conversation with someone in the novel's present.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: Voros on August 27, 2017, 03:16:11 AM
Check out the great samurai and swordplay films like Samurai Rebellion, Samurai Spy, Lady Snowblood and Sword of Doom.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: DiscoSoup on August 27, 2017, 05:25:15 PM
Oh, and there is Kaigaku, a game that I wrote. The clan daimyo and almost all of the PCs have problems that need solving, or secrets. Plus there are encounter generators. Each issue of the Kaigaku Chronicle (Henjinmura Village, Chronicles of the Geisha and Chronicles of the Ninja) has lots of adventure hooks, including some solo replayable stories. And I've got more issues coming out.
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: El cuervo on August 28, 2017, 12:14:14 PM
usagi yojimbo rpg, based in the comic with antropomorph samurais, has a suplement that works as a monster compendium, with a adventure seed, or a complete adventure, in each entry. a lot of the creatures are supernatural (ghosts, etc...)
Title: Plots/plot seeds for samurai/bushi adventures in Fantasy Nippon?
Post by: RPGPundit on September 01, 2017, 09:56:26 PM
Quote from: El cuervo;987337usagi yojimbo rpg, based in the comic with antropomorph samurais, has a suplement that works as a monster compendium, with a adventure seed, or a complete adventure, in each entry. a lot of the creatures are supernatural (ghosts, etc...)

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