Quote from: Wntrlnd on July 05, 2022, 07:48:21 AM
Other instances where prostitution is mentioned in various rpgs I've encountered is in Golarion the goddess Calistria in particular having "sacred prostitutes" while there is also a few other goddesses whos clergy practices it as well.
Seeing as Calistria is the also the favored deity of assassins, they're about as close you can come to the trope of "Hooker Ninja" I guess.

Pathfinder being a DnD derivate its probably as close you can get to "sex workers in a DnD game" in the current climate. I wonder how that managed to slip by the SJWs.
Just about any game that has a (profession) skill for PCs to earn money between adventures can be said to have rules for prostitution if that is what the player wishes to write down on that line.

In the same vein GURPS have a list of professions for the players to earn money by and I'm pretty sure I've seen different variations of prostitutes across different social levels and TLs in all kinds of settings.

As actual character classes/archetypes for players to pick, the Saloon Girl template exists in various games about the Wild west like Deadlands (1st ed) and swedish rpg Western 4th ed

Quote from: jhkim on January 14, 2023, 04:51:17 PM

Quote from: ForgottenF on January 11, 2023, 08:07:56 PM
In my experience, sexuality in TTRPGs falls into one of four broad categories.

Straighforward Erotic Roleplay - sexual content for sexual reasons. Not my bag, but easy to understand.

Covert/Unintentional ERP - People slipping things into the game (consciously or not), because those things are sexually interesting to them. Certain fetishes (furries, vore, transformation etc.) seem to have a bad rep for doing this, but it could be as innocent as a GM making NPCs based on qualities they find atractive.

"Serious" ERP (for lack of a better term) - Sexuality put into the game because someone thinks it has narrative or artistic merit. This could be atsy-fartsyness, or it could just be something the GM/players thought was necessary to be faithful to the genre or setting.

Burlesque - Sexuality meant to amuse rather than arouse. This I think is drastically the most common form, to the point where it's appeared in some way or another in almost every game I've ever played in. Fact is that at a certain base level, RPGs appeal to the 14 year old in all of us, and are often an excuse for otherwise serious adults to behave immaturely. Naked people are funny and sexual misadventures for a punchline are as old as Greek Comedy. I can't speak for Venger, but on a cursory look at Alpha Blue, it looks like this is the camp he's planting his flag in.

I'm not sure what you mean by serious erotic role-playing. I'm thinking about many games where it's been normal for PCs to be in romantic relationships - like being married, or having a romantic partner. Sex was presumed to happen for such couples, but that was always off-screen. For example, if traveling, they'd have a room to themselves rather than sharing quarters with other PCs.

Would you consider that erotic role-playing? If so, that seems like a confusing label to me. That said, there have been a subset of those games that had scenes with romantic/sexual tension in the dialog - which could more reasonably be called erotic, though it's very much a sliding scale.

Having PC sex workers has been much less common for me, but it hasn't been any more erotic than these. I noted before my Firefly/Serenity one-shot games, where all the pregen PCs were running a Companion's Guild ship.

https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/serenity/

There was nothing erotic about the role-playing, as I would describe it. There was some talk about taking jobs while traveling, but the focus was on guild issues - which could be security related, economic, or political. If sex happened, it was off-screen.

Basically, I don't think sex work as a profession is any more inherently erotic than PCs having spouses or partners.

Quote from: Itachi on January 14, 2023, 08:16:56 PM

Quote from: ForgottenF on January 11, 2023, 08:07:56 PMIn my experience, sexuality in TTRPGs falls into one of four broad categories.

Straighforward Erotic Roleplay - sexual content for sexual reasons. Not my bag, but easy to understand.

Covert/Unintentional ERP - People slipping things into the game (consciously or not), because those things are sexually interesting to them. Certain fetishes (furries, vore, transformation etc.) seem to have a bad rep for doing this, but it could be as innocent as a GM making NPCs based on qualities they find atractive.

"Serious" ERP (for lack of a better term) - Sexuality put into the game because someone thinks it has narrative or artistic merit. This could be atsy-fartsyness, or it could just be something the GM/players thought was necessary to be faithful to the genre or setting.

Burlesque - Sexuality meant to amuse rather than arouse. This I think is drastically the most common form, to the point where it's appeared in some way or another in almost every game I've ever played in. Fact is that at a certain base level, RPGs appeal to the 14 year old in all of us, and are often an excuse for otherwise serious adults to behave immaturely. Naked people are funny and sexual misadventures for a punchline are as old as Greek Comedy. I can't speak for Venger, but on a cursory look at Alpha Blue, it looks like this is the camp he's planting his flag in.

How would you classify the kind of sexual content seen in Apocalypse World and their brethren, which take the form of "sex moves", used as leverage to pull strings/manipulate PCs/NPCs. Not so different from what's seen in emseble cast TV shows. I feel like it falls on your "serious" category above.

Quote from: jhkim on January 14, 2023, 04:51:17 PM

Quote from: ForgottenF on January 11, 2023, 08:07:56 PM
In my experience, sexuality in TTRPGs falls into one of four broad categories.

Straighforward Erotic Roleplay - sexual content for sexual reasons. Not my bag, but easy to understand.

Covert/Unintentional ERP - People slipping things into the game (consciously or not), because those things are sexually interesting to them. Certain fetishes (furries, vore, transformation etc.) seem to have a bad rep for doing this, but it could be as innocent as a GM making NPCs based on qualities they find atractive.

"Serious" ERP (for lack of a better term) - Sexuality put into the game because someone thinks it has narrative or artistic merit. This could be atsy-fartsyness, or it could just be something the GM/players thought was necessary to be faithful to the genre or setting.

Burlesque - Sexuality meant to amuse rather than arouse. This I think is drastically the most common form, to the point where it's appeared in some way or another in almost every game I've ever played in. Fact is that at a certain base level, RPGs appeal to the 14 year old in all of us, and are often an excuse for otherwise serious adults to behave immaturely. Naked people are funny and sexual misadventures for a punchline are as old as Greek Comedy. I can't speak for Venger, but on a cursory look at Alpha Blue, it looks like this is the camp he's planting his flag in.

I'm not sure what you mean by serious erotic role-playing. I'm thinking about many games where it's been normal for PCs to be in romantic relationships - like being married, or having a romantic partner. Sex was presumed to happen for such couples, but that was always off-screen. For example, if traveling, they'd have a room to themselves rather than sharing quarters with other PCs.

Would you consider that erotic role-playing? .....

Quote from: ForgottenF on January 15, 2023, 12:32:27 AM
It's not a perfect system, but the idea I was getting at was the various motivations for including explicit sexual content in a game. Romance with sex only as an implication I don't think I'd even include in that schema. To the extent it does, I guess it'd fall in the "serious" category on the grounds that it's there for narrative purposes.

Mostly I was just pointing out that when sex appears in RPGs its usually not for the purpose of arousing the participants.