Players who demand character options from the GM are the first to get bored?

Ravenswing · November 12, 2015, 11:03:42 AM

Quote from: Tod13;8637772 minute minor penalty. In the box.

Unless this made anybody bleed?

I can spot blood. That's a five minute major, and it'll come up to the league office for supplementary discipline.

RPGPundit · November 17, 2015, 01:17:43 AM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;863774omg u r deprotagonizing the clam

Ironically, there are Clam-People in my DCC setting. And they have been largely deprotagonized, in that the party has not yet encountered them.

Omega · November 17, 2015, 07:45:55 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;864840Ironically, there are Clam-People in my DCC setting. And they have been largely deprotagonized, in that the party has not yet encountered them.

Oppressed clams. What is the world coming to?

Marginalized Deprotagonized Evolutionalized Clams. Can team them up with the Pre-Teen Dirty-Gene Kung-Fu Kangaroos. :hatsoff:

Gronan of Simmerya · November 17, 2015, 09:44:55 AM

Radioactive Adolescent Samurai Slugs, for you Animaniacs fans.

Shipyard Locked · November 17, 2015, 01:33:42 PM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;864894Radioactive Adolescent Samurai Slugs, for you Animaniacs fans.

*Ahem*, Immature Radioactive Samurai Slugs was a Tiny Toons thing

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http://img11.deviantart.net/9aeb/i/2014/170/e/c/las_inmaduras_y_radioactivas_babosas_samuria_by_donpapi-d7n41ci.jpg

Matt · November 19, 2015, 10:22:04 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;864840Ironically, there are Clam-People in my DCC setting. And they have been largely deprotagonized, in that the party has not yet encountered them.

Not ironic unless you are Alanis Morisette.

RPGPundit · November 22, 2015, 12:04:45 AM

It's a little-known fact that most other English-speakers are unfamiliar with, but in fact Canadians use that word differently from anally-retentive dickwads.

Christopher Brady · November 23, 2015, 01:28:57 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;865621It's a little-known fact that most other English-speakers are unfamiliar with, but in fact Canadians use that word differently from anally-retentive dickwads.

Yes, yes we do.

Matt · November 23, 2015, 03:51:03 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;865621It's a little-known fact that most other English-speakers are unfamiliar with, but in fact Canadians use that word differently from anally-retentive dickwads.

Ol' Pundit: never admits he's wrong, just changes the topic. Par for the course.

Matt · November 24, 2015, 08:59:23 AM

By the way, John/Kasimir/whatever, I can teach you the difference between slander and libel as well, if you like. Your blog shows you don't know what those words mean either.

The Butcher · November 24, 2015, 11:39:57 AM

Quote from: Matt;865833By the way, John/Kasimir/whatever, I can teach you the difference between slander and libel as well, if you like. Your blog shows you don't know what those words mean either.

:popcorn:

Shipyard Locked · November 24, 2015, 12:58:00 PM

Quote from: Matt;865833By the way, John/Kasimir/whatever, I can teach you the difference between slander and libel as well, if you like. Your blog shows you don't know what those words mean either.

Damn it, I was going to challenge Pundit to an amicable showdown over Eberron this week, but with this now going down I'd either get overlooked or blasted with carried-over second-hand rage.

Guess I'll try next week.

Omega · November 24, 2015, 05:07:40 PM

As I think someone else noted. I think the more a player demands XYZ it seems the faster they become bored.

Someone who goes "Hey. Can I play an evolved clam in this even though there arent any?" may stick with it far longer than the one whos is just short of telling you he will play an evolved clam. YMMV of course.

But also for some the whatever is just a means to gain more powers than the normal class and race selection would allow.

Multi-armed characters who can quad wield swords or guns is one I've run into a few times.

Opaopajr · November 26, 2015, 01:35:32 AM

Pundit is correct, as the other definitions of irony attest. This is known often as situational irony, where the unintended occur outside of normal subjective agency.

Irony (Cambridge Free Dictionary)
Cambridge Free Dictionary
› a type of usually humorous expression in which you say the opposite of what you intend:
He had a powerful sense of irony, and you could never be absolutely sure when he was serious.

› Irony is also something that has a different or opposite result from what is expected:

[C] It is one of the ironies of life that by the time you have earned enough money for the things you always wanted, you no longer have the energy to enjoy them.
› literature Irony is a style of writing in which there is a noticeable, often humorous, difference between what is said and the intended meaning.

Irony (Merriam Webster Dictionary)
Meriam Webster Dictionary
: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really think especially in order to be funny

: a situation that is strange or funny because things happen in a way that seems to be the opposite of what you expected

Irony (Macmillan Dictionary)
Macmillan Dictionary
1 [UNCOUNTABLE] a form of humor in which you use words to express the opposite of what the words really mean
"You've been so kind," she said, her voice heavy with irony.
a touch/trace/hint of irony: His writing contains a cheerful touch of irony.

2 [COUNTABLE/UNCOUNTABLE] a strange, funny, or sad situation in which things happen in the opposite way to what you would expect
tragic/bitter/cruel irony: By a cruel irony, General Franklin was killed at the very moment of his army's great victory.
the irony (of something) is that: The irony is that it would have been faster to have taken the back roads after all.

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Since evolved clams, let alone de-protagonized ones, are on the bleeding edge of probability -- and thus intended as hyperbole in the previous statements -- it is actually IRONIC that the SITUATION within Pundit's campaign provides an Unintended, Strange, and Funny, counter-example of what was Expected.

Any other dictionaries you care to disagree with?

Batman · November 26, 2015, 08:26:59 AM

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;859971This came up in a thread on another forum when they were discussing players who chafe at character creation restrictions that are put in place for thematic reasons:

This really leaped out at me because I'd noticed something similar. Does this match anyone else's experiences?

In my experience, there's more to it than just an unhappy player with the restrictions. We're the restrictions in place before the player decided to join or are the restrictions based more on just the DMs dislike of said options than a strong thematic reason for them not existing, for example?

I'm of the belief that most options can be incorporated into almost any campaign with a tiny bit effort on both the player and DM