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[Player Characters]Underage PC's?

Started by Serious Paul, October 15, 2008, 01:38:07 PM

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flyingmice

Quote from: David R;257036I should have mentioned the age factor whenever I talked about my IHW games. There were two characters one 14 the other 15 in my Our Cruel Sea campaign. About the only problems we encountered, was exactly how well the kids were able to articulate ideas and stand up to authority (important themes in the campaign). But after a while we just said screw it and assumed they were "wise beyond their years"....not very convincing, but it worked....

Regards,
David R

All of my guys - New England talk for people, not men - played middies in one of my IHW games. The best was the 12 year old brother of one of my guys, who plays occasionally, playing a 12 year old middie. A conversation in character:

Captain: "I'm afraid this latest infraction can't be ignored, Midshipman Brown. You're going to have to 'kiss the Gunner's daughter.'"

Brown: "I've got to kiss a girl???"

Captain: "Noooo, not quite..."

Brown: "I've got to kiss a BOY????!!!!"

At that point the table just cracked up.

-clash
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KingSpoom

In dnd, I often made characters just above starting age.  I do remember sometimes people who played humans would start at the lowest starting age possible (I think 15) because we've had problems with ghosts aging people by 40 years.

There are only 2 cases of really young characters though.  One, I believe, was in a battletech campaign.  I think it was more acceptable because the kid was a pilot and most people just saw the mech.  The other time someone had made a young character as a backup character, but never brought it in play.  I do believe that it would have been accepted.

Personally, I don't care if someone wants to play a kid, but I wouldn't want to see it done often.  The kinds of situations it creates (either with the character concept or just the general reaction/run-of-events in the game) would become annoying eventually.  The genre might make it more or less appropriate.  I could easily see a superhero youngster being part of a great game, but a normal modern or fantasy game might strain the game.
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Jackalope

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Quote from: CavScout;256912I'd suggest that the issue is not the age of the PC but what one wants to do with the PC that determines the "appropriate age".

I agree with CavScout.   ::shudder::

Many moons ago I played a character named Too Slick in a Fantasy Hero game.  He was based on the character Short Round from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.  No, wait.  He was Short Round.  I'm pretty sure I called one of the other players "Doctor Jones" more than a few times.

That character was an absolute blast to play.  He was played primarily as comic relief, but since he was built on the same points as everyone else, he was pretty badass, and saved the whole party's bacon more than a few times.

I have no problem with kid characters like that, specifically the "The Kid" archetype.  I also don't have a problem with The Kid being a girl.

But any guy my age who wants to play a little girl raises an alarm.  And I can see that going to a really creepy place really fast.

I also don't have any issue with any starting D&D character around 16-18.  That's what the dice generate, and teenagers are stupid and reckless so they already have most of the prerequisites for adventuring down pat.
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David R

Quote from: flyingmice;257059At that point the table just cracked up.

You know me clash, my historical games don't have much of the funneh in them. We did make up rules for loading a pistol with one arm in a sling, though :D (I think I mentioned this before , the incident about the most vicious knife fight in the history of my gaming) , which got the now famous, "If the boy can do it, why not me..."

Regards,
David R

Engine

No, seriously, I played a 12-year-old boy who killed people. Murdered them. Slaughtered them, with glee and an axe. Shouldn't I be shunned or ridiculed or something? Or is it only sex-and-children that's deserving of reprehension, not ultraviolence-and-children?
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Jackalope

Quote from: Engine;257158No, seriously, I played a 12-year-old boy who killed people. Murdered them. Slaughtered them, with glee and an axe. Shouldn't I be shunned or ridiculed or something? Or is it only sex-and-children that's deserving of reprehension, not ultraviolence-and-children?

I'd kick you out of a group for making a character like that.  Stupid pointless edgy crap that serves no purpose at all.  I mean seriously, where the development in a character like that?  There isn't any.  It's just stupid "look at me! look at me!  I'm being EDGY!" garbage.

But you probably played that character once, if you aren't just making shit up.

And we don't need to shun and ridicule you, you're not actually part of the gaming hobby.  You're just Serious Paul's boyfriend who he games with a few times a year.  You've done us all the favor of removing yourself from the community in general already.
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Idinsinuation

Quote from: Engine;257158No, seriously, I played a 12-year-old boy who killed people. Murdered them. Slaughtered them, with glee and an axe. Shouldn't I be shunned or ridiculed or something? Or is it only sex-and-children that's deserving of reprehension, not ultraviolence-and-children?
It all depends on context and level of detail, that argument is too vague for this discussion.  A child rapist villain for the party to catch/kill is one thing.  A child rapist character in the party is going too far.

Now if you're talking about consenting sex between kids, that depends on the context.  In historic games this might make sense.  Although in my book that kind of thing is best left behind the scenes and doesn't really enhance the story to describe in any amount of detail.

Quote from: Jackalope;257339I'd kick you out of a group for making a character like that.  Stupid pointless edgy crap that serves no purpose at all.  I mean seriously, where the development in a character like that?  There isn't any.  It's just stupid "look at me! look at me!  I'm being EDGY!" garbage.
Yeah because you know the complete context of his character in their game.  Don't be rediculous.  Halloween featured such a character and it worked for that story.  If the name of the game was to play psychopaths, then who are you to kick anyone out?
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David R

Quote from: Engine;257158No, seriously, I played a 12-year-old boy who killed people. Murdered them. Slaughtered them, with glee and an axe. Shouldn't I be shunned or ridiculed or something? Or is it only sex-and-children that's deserving of reprehension, not ultraviolence-and-children?

This is a thread of it's own, Engine.

Regards,
David R

Dr Rotwang!

Quote from: Jackalope;257339You're just Serious Paul's boyfriend who he games with a few times a year.
Wow!  Does serious Paul know that?
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flyingmice

Quote from: Engine;257158No, seriously, I played a 12-year-old boy who killed people. Murdered them. Slaughtered them, with glee and an axe. Shouldn't I be shunned or ridiculed or something? Or is it only sex-and-children that's deserving of reprehension, not ultraviolence-and-children?

Who am I to tell you what your group should do? That's up to you. If your group has no problem, you're the only one who can judge that.

-clash
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David R

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!;257369Wow!  Does serious Paul know that?

If he does, he's a no good cheating SOB....

Regards,
David R

Serious Paul

Trollop that's me. How I find the time....:D

Idinsinuation

Quote from: Serious Paul;257380Trollop that's me. How I find the time....:D

I find that video games keep me faithful, but then she gets mad that I'm spending too much time playing them.  Doesn't she realize how hard it is for me not to sleep around!?
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droog

Quote from: Engine;257158Or is it only sex-and-children that's deserving of reprehension, not ultraviolence-and-children?

Man, this site tarred and feathered a bloke and rode him out on a rail, because he'd done some speculative thinking about child sexuality in a fictional world.
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RPGPundit

Quote from: droog;257415Man, this site tarred and feathered a bloke and rode him out on a rail, because he'd done some speculative thinking about child sexuality in a fictional world.

Actually, because he couldn't stop talking about it, pretty well everywhere.  All in all, we're pretty lax around here. Many would accuse me of being far too tolerant of the Lawncrappers here.

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