Quote from: Thanatos02In an ironic twist, Pundit feels nothing but disdain for those gamers. They are ideologically inferior, and worse gamers. He feels his gaming is superior, and that gaming in the way that he does makes him a superior person. At that point, he defines himself as the Swine he rails against.

Because the Pundit himself is a swine

Quote from: Thanatos02EDIT: This is kinda funny, though. Pundit wins the debate - because there is at least one Swine that is easily recognizable by the terms Pundit himself lays out. A useless victory, though, wot?

Takes one to know one

Quote from: Blue DevilYep.  And of course Pundit's thinks he got banned from rpg.net, etc because the mods were against him.   It has nothing to do with his constant insults and his lunitic rants.

Honestly if I have to choose I'd take the Pundit persona instead of Nisarg. Christ that fucker was whiny brat .

Regards,
David R

Quote from: David RHonestly if I have to choose I'd take the Pundit persona instead of Nisarg. Christ that fucker was whiny brat .

Regards,
David R

Except for the fact that they are one in the same.   So it's either the personality of Nisarg who as whiny or Pundit who suffers from Paranoia.

Not really a win win situation

Quote from: Blue DevilExcept for the fact that they are one in the same.   So it's either the personality of Nisarg who as whiny or Pundit who suffers from Paranoia.

Not really a win win situation

*Shrug*

He wasn't really either of those, in person.

Which makes it all the more laughable.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen*Shrug*

He wasn't really either of those, in person.

Then why doesn't he act like his normal self in person?  Why does he act like a total ass?

Probably because on the internet he can act like as ass all he wants and the worse that can happen is he can be banned from a forum.

I knew someone who was a real ass online and then I met them in person they kept their mouth shut.

Quote from: James McMurrayWhich makes it all the more laughable.

I have to agree.  His "Online Persona" has gotten him banned from a few forums.

He claims RPGS and Science Fiction on his blog as one of his "expertise".  I think Pundit is someone who suffers from low self esteme and can mouth off and act out on the internet because he is protected by a vail of Anonymity.

The squeeky wheel gets the grease. That's why. Just ask all those fools who pepper their theories with inflammatory phrases. It's the internet equivalent of the kid at school who always stuck his hand in the air shouting "ooh, ooh!" and then when he wasn't picked started making farting noises or belching or something.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen*Shrug*

He wasn't really either of those, in person.

He sounds the most authentic when he's talking up how great Uraguay is, about smoking pipes, or how awesome his campaign is. Face to face, I think we'd get along great. I don't even disagree with much of what he says. I just don't like the Swine thing. I can agree they're there, as a human condition. Those kinds of people are asshole. But, even if I'm not swine, I'm a whiney, pretentious loser to him because of some of my views and the games I play. Which is weird, because I don't feel pretentious, but I guess it's hard to tell when it's just you and your friends. So... ::laughs::

Quote from: One Horse TownThe squeeky wheel gets the grease. That's why. Just ask all those fools who pepper their theories with inflammatory phrases. It's the internet equivalent of the kid at school who always stuck his hand in the air shouting "ooh, ooh!" and then when he wasn't picked started making farting noises or belching or something.

Yep, you do have a point.

Not that it matters, he is just a guy in his corner of the internet spouting his tin foil theories while the majority of gamers who don't visit rpg forums are busy playing and aren't even aware of his antics.

Quote from: Thanatos02He sounds the most authentic when he's talking up how great Uraguay is, about smoking pipes, or how awesome his campaign is. Face to face, I think we'd get along great. I don't even disagree with much of what he says.

Exactly how I feel. Well, I probably disagree more (and certainly with the attitude), but the rest is spot on. Sad, really. OTOH, I learned a lot of cool things about Uruguay. I used to assume South America was this Big Scary Place I Should Never Go (and (EDIT: When I lived in Japan between 1995-2000) I basically used to hang out in the Shinjuku Kabuki-cho All The Time; loitering around in the area of Japan with the highest concentration of Yakuza safehouses, sex shops and violent crimes). So for that I'm grateful.

But the rest? Peh.

-Andy

Quote from: Blue DevilNot that it matters, he is just a guy in his corner of the internet spouting his tin foil theories while the majority of gamers who don't visit rpg forums are busy playing and aren't even aware of his antics.

True, but I do think he has started something good here. It's strange, most of the folks who I thought I wouldn't get along with on tBP seem pretty okay here, even him except for the lunatic "SWINE DIE MOTHERFUCKERS" spiel you have to put up with.

Regards,
David R

OK..umm...does anyone else think that Tony's mention of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead is exactly what's at issue here?

Let me be clear.  I get what he's saying. It think it's great that he uses other influences in his life for this hobby.  And I think it's great if he shares the results of those influences and it inspires other people.

I even think it's great if someone asks how he came up with it, he says, "Oh, I was reading this play.."

But the references - two now - to the source, just seems pretentious to me.  does the fact of where it came from bear any weight? Should it?

On the flip side - look at Doc.  Sorry to drag you into it, Doc!, but you are one great walking reference regarding from where your ideas originate. And it's a completely different set of influences. I don't think I've ever heard anyone call Doc! pretentious for those outside-the-hobby influences.

So is this entire argument about the source of influences, the references thereto, and the manner in which it is portrayed? Is Pundit's issue that these people make these references/use these influences, or that they seem to toss them out in this elitist manner that are meant to be, and are, taken as superiority?

Or I could be fucked inthe head and need my meds...

If it's pretentious then I'm guilty as well...also I kinda of think that putting  Doc up as everyman gamer - not saying that this is your intent, just that it comes of that way IMO at least -is well kind of dodgy.

R&G is a great play and has served me well in WFRP amongst other games.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: David RIf it's pretentious then I'm guilty as well...also I kinda of think that putting  Doc up as everyman gamer - not saying that this is your intent, just that it comes of that way IMO at least -is well kind of dodgy.

R&G is a great play and has served me well in WFRP amongst other games.

Regards,
David R

Oh no...I would never think of Doc! as an everyman anything - he's as unique as they come.

I'm just saying, why do people tend not to have a problem with Doc? Why don't people consider him pretentious for his references to influences? It's not that his references are "common" or "everyman." But must they not be different in some way that IMHO most here don't think of him as pretentious? Is it the delivery? What? Dammit David, what?