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Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"

Started by Omega, March 27, 2024, 09:08:48 PM

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WotC still has PTSD over the feces-haiku that was 4e. They NEVER wanna go back to that shit. EVER. So yeah they will dance and lie all around whatever ONE D&D is suppose to be in order to keep the troops from defecting again.

It's pathetic: they created a version of whatever their game is so fkn bad it split their player base. Paizo's STILL slurppin' that milkshake to this day.

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Omega

Quote from: pawsplay on April 01, 2024, 02:32:14 AM
Only in the RPG world could you make substantial textual revisions a few years after the fact, and claim it's not a new edition. What RPG publishers call printings would be equivalent to new editions in some corners of the publishing world.

Only to morons.

A new printing is not a new "edition" unless it changes things up in a way that is not error fixes.

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Quote from: Omega on March 28, 2024, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: S'mon on March 28, 2024, 04:09:51 AM
Perkins is a doofus but I agree with him on number of classes; 1e AD&D got it about right IMO with classes & subclasses.

Then you open up Dragon and its a new class every 5 issues.

AD&D expanded classes slowly, much as 5e did. Fiend Folio and Oriental Adventures, and technically Dragonlance were about the only books to add new races or classes.

That all changed with 2e.

Not really, no.  Dragon Magazine options weren't core, and they'd say as much. The only Drmg stuff that got made core were the things Gary cherry picked for Unearthed Arcana.  Had there been no need to save TSR from going down the financial toilet in '85 I think those would've been much, much better refined.

But the fan-submission level stuff in Dragon was never ever core classes.  Nothing in Drmg was, and they'd flat out tell you so, unless it came from Out On A Limb of From The Sorcerer's Scroll.

If anything 2e speeded up the bloat with garbage like "kits".
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