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PBS article on D&D. OSR Racist???

Started by Omega, January 03, 2023, 09:36:20 AM

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Jam The MF

Quote from: Chris24601 on January 03, 2023, 10:34:28 AM
The Whack Left: "It's wrong to characterize RPG races as inherently evil."

Also the Whack Left: "White people are inherently evil."

Such, are the times in which we live.  Without the internet, this mind virus could not have spread so easily.
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PulpHerb

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on January 03, 2023, 01:49:39 PM
I haven't paid for any legacy content from D&D since they labeled everything before 5E as racist.  I mean they can try to shovel out their garbage, all it does is take dollars away from their company and build up their competitors.

I know they'd rather I obtained it by other means than take my racist money for their racist products.

I'm surprised they sell such racist material...it's like they almost like they value money more than virtue.

weirdguy564

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Quote from: Omega on January 03, 2023, 09:36:20 AM
PBS going the woke spiel. But the little jab at the OSR was a bit perplexing.
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QuoteBut even within these gaming communities, there is some friction. Old School Renaissance, or OSR, is a gaming movement whose players claim they are "against outside politics permeating their game space," said Dashiell. These players support the use of traditional fantasy tropes in game design, such as the existence of "good" and "evil" races with no nuance. OSR gamers are often seen as the old guard of tabletop gaming and tend to idealize the past, which "defaults to a white, masculine worldview," Trammell said.

The article is scattered with more drivvel.

Yeah, heaven forbid we set the story to have non-ambiguous bad guys that everyone can agree are ok to kill on sight.  Not suggest.  Not imply.  Not realistic.  But make a fictional setting where it's ok and we won't be judged for doing so.

So we get judged for doing so anyway.  Is it any wonder we all want these people to go away and never try to come back?   It's fiction.  It's childish fun.  Stop over-analyzing it that there are hidden meanings.  We made bad guys irredeemable so it's ok and nobody gets weird about it.  I would rather kill a skeleton than a stormtrooper.  That trooper might be married with kids, and either way is somebody's son.  A skeleton is a monster.  So are pig faced brutes who are cannibals, created by a dark god as throw away troops.  Just kill it. 

I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Brad

Quote from: weirdguy564 on January 03, 2023, 02:53:40 PM
Yeah, heaven forbid we set the story to have non-ambiguous bad guys that everyone can agree are ok to kill on sight.  Not suggest.  Not imply.  Not realistic.  But make a fictional setting where it's ok and we won't be judged for doing so.

So we get judged for doing so anyway.  Is it any wonder we all want these people to go away and never try to come back?   It's fiction.  It's childish fun.  Stop over-analyzing it that there are hidden meanings.  We made bad guys irredeemable so it's ok and nobody gets weird about it.  I would rather kill a skeleton than a stormtrooper.  That trooper might be married with kids, and either way is somebodies son.  A skeleton is a monster.  So are pig faced brutes who are cannibals, created by a dark god as throw away troops.  Just kill it.

https://catholicexchange.com/the-importance-of-myths-and-fairy-tales-for-christian-children/

I think there's something more nefarious going on here; these SJW retards are just useful idiots to push an agenda.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

S'mon

I feel modern SJW-inflected D&D is more 'white' and parochial than the old stuff. But definitely less masculine! Old D&D appealed to teenage boys of all ages and races. The new stuff appeals only to Western-culture SJWs and Allies.
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shoplifter

Quote from: S'mon on January 03, 2023, 03:18:41 PM
I feel modern SJW-inflected D&D is more 'white' and parochial than the old stuff. But definitely less masculine! Old D&D appealed to teenage boys of all ages and races. The new stuff appeals only to Western-culture SJWs and Allies.

It's definitely more 'White Man's Burden'

SHARK

Greetings!

More anti-white racism and hatred, dressed up as intellectual discussion. Meanwhile sucking the ass of every other people and minority--especially applauding and slobbering on "POC".

PBS is utterly pathetic. They need to gargle with Napalm.

Just also notice the lies and bullshit propaganda they push and marinate in. The RPG hobby has always welcomed minorities and women. Just because it was started by WHITE people--and the majority of the fans and participants have been WHITE--so what? America is mostly white. White people are the majority, whether the "POC" like it or not. Just about everything is going to cater to and reflect white preferences, and white values. Again, so what? This dynamic is a reality everywhere. In China, it's Chinese values and preferences. In Mexico, it s Mexican values and preferences. And so on and so on.

Beyond those considerations, notice also the techniques of "divide and conquer", of stirring up problems--of creating a problem from nowhere, so they then can provide the solution.

Telling YOUR stories. WTF? Women, minorities, gays, "POC" can't tell their stories? Since when? They can create and play whatever stories they want. That has always been true. However, specifically, what the fuck do their "stories" have any fucking relevance to the game of D&D? Gays, women, "POC", whaa, whaa, whaa. It is all a crybaby, spoiled child-like attempt and entitled tantrum to change the game and the gaming culture by pumping their Marxist-based ideological bullshit into the hobby. 

Napalm.

Napalm is the answer.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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hedgehobbit

Quote from: Brad on January 03, 2023, 03:02:26 PMI think there's something more nefarious going on here; these SJW retards are just useful idiots to push an agenda.

I said this early on and it is looking more true each day. The whole focus on race vs species in One D&D is just to create a social stigma against playing the older, racist versions of the game. Pushing everyone back into the fold of the One approved game.

What's funny is seeing people like Gobllinoid Games acting as if they will be spared by bending the knee.

shoplifter

Quote from: hedgehobbit on January 03, 2023, 04:21:14 PM


What's funny is seeing people like Gobllinoid Games acting as if they will be spared by bending the knee.

They'll just be the last ones eaten

zer0th

Quote from: SHARK on January 03, 2023, 04:12:12 PM
More anti-white racism and hatred, dressed up as intellectual discussion. Meanwhile sucking the ass of every other people and minority--especially applauding and slobbering on "POC".

PBS is utterly pathetic. They need to gargle with Napalm.

Just also notice the lies and bullshit propaganda they push and marinate in. The RPG hobby has always welcomed minorities and women. Just because it was started by WHITE people--and the majority of the fans and participants have been WHITE--so what? America is mostly white. White people are the majority, whether the "POC" like it or not. Just about everything is going to cater to and reflect white preferences, and white values. Again, so what? This dynamic is a reality everywhere. In China, it's Chinese values and preferences. In Mexico, it s Mexican values and preferences. And so on and so on.

In Latin America, we get this same bullcrap. (Imported from your universities, by the way.  ;) ) The funny thing is that the same person who is an evil white oppressor in Latin America is an oppressed PoC minority in the U.S. The attack is on the traditional basis of society and here it is the white families (with some mixture or not) and the Christian black and mixed families who never played the victim card.

You said "in Mexico, it is Mexican values and preferences". I can't speak for Mexico, but I can say that in Brazil it is not Brazilian values or preferences, it is Marxian values imported from American or French universities.

The wokesters are destroying the Mexican values as they use them to destroy the American values.

Grognard GM

There's an old Doctor Who storyline (The Greatest Show In The Galaxy) where there are several prisoners, and they know that they're being sent to their death one at a time. As the Doctor plans an escape for them, one of the prisoners reports their scheme to the jailers.

Some people would rather put off the inevitable, than face danger now with a chance at survival. It's basically how all dictatorships work.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Brad

Quote from: hedgehobbit on January 03, 2023, 04:21:14 PM
I said this early on and it is looking more true each day. The whole focus on race vs species in One D&D is just to create a social stigma against playing the older, racist versions of the game. Pushing everyone back into the fold of the One approved game.

There's always only been One D&D, comrade.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Grognard GM

Quote from: Brad on January 03, 2023, 05:10:19 PM
There's always only been One D&D, comrade.

I'd rather wear the head-cage full of rats.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 03, 2023, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: Brad on January 03, 2023, 05:10:19 PM
There's always only been One D&D, comrade.

I'd rather wear the head-cage full of rats.

I'd rather wear the skin of Jeremy Perkins and make hate love to his husband than play One D&D.

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on January 03, 2023, 05:53:04 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 03, 2023, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: Brad on January 03, 2023, 05:10:19 PM
There's always only been One D&D, comrade.

I'd rather wear the head-cage full of rats.

I'd rather wear the skin of Perkins and make love to his husband than play One D&D.