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Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: danbuter on September 18, 2014, 04:45:09 PM
The author of the Kingkiller series blogs about D&D, and it has a fun ending.

http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2014/09/thirty-years-of-dd/
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Future Villain Band on September 18, 2014, 04:57:09 PM
That is really pretty awesome.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Rincewind1 on September 18, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
It's funny, because one of my player is a huge fan of his books, to the point that yes, his character is named Kvothe. I let it slide since he's new to RPGs, and I already allowed a detective called Tom Hanks once in CoC.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: The Butcher on September 18, 2014, 05:36:25 PM
That is one epic motherfucking post.

I have half a mind to go out and pick up something by this gentleman.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Pete Nash on September 18, 2014, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;787707That is one epic motherfucking post.

I have half a mind to go out and pick up something by this gentleman.
He seems to be a decent guy. However, be prepared that his books thus far have been 'epic motherfuckers' too... that is to say epic-ally long, heavy, and torturous. Kvothe is a petty epic MS too.

They'd be great books if he could keep the page count down, but they are at the very least entertaining, if not great literature. :)
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: tenbones on September 19, 2014, 07:15:04 PM
Pat strikes me as a great guy. I think the Kingkiller books are good. I have a few problems with Kvothe in one big way: he IS very much a fucking Mary Sue of epic proportions... and it kinda kills it for me.

But you know... it's still entertaining in its own way.

Great blogpost.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Silverlion on September 19, 2014, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: tenbones;787877Pat strikes me as a great guy. I think the Kingkiller books are good. I have a few problems with Kvothe in one big way: he IS very much a fucking Mary Sue of epic proportions... and it kinda kills it for me.

But you know... it's still entertaining in its own way.

Great blogpost.

You know the funny thing? I like the books, because so far that's what he isn't, mostly. He has a LOT harder time at stuff than most Mary Sues and a LOT of the true story (at least that we're getting) is stuff blown VERY out of proportions, so while we get his POV, and it makes him out to be suitably heroic, it also points out he's not nearly where people think he is in terms of power.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Loz on September 21, 2014, 05:47:07 PM
QuoteKvothe is a petty epic MS too.

Oh god yes... Nauseatingly so. Kvothe is reasonably palatable in the first novel, but by the end of the second you want to strangle the fucker with his own lute strings.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: The Butcher on September 21, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
Quote from: Pete Nash;787710He seems to be a decent guy. However, be prepared that his books thus far have been 'epic motherfuckers' too... that is to say epic-ally long, heavy, and torturous. Kvothe is a petty epic MS too.

Yeah, all of the above has been keeping me from his books so far.

It's not like I have a dearth of stuff to read.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: jeff37923 on September 21, 2014, 06:08:59 PM
Maybe his stuff isn't that great (I haven't read any of it and so cannot say). Regardless, he used to play D&D and now is mentioned as an author of readable fantasy inspiration in the latest edition. That should count for something.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Pete Nash on September 22, 2014, 03:30:18 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;788086Maybe his stuff isn't that great (I haven't read any of it and so cannot say). Regardless, he used to play D&D and now is mentioned as an author of readable fantasy inspiration in the latest edition. That should count for something.
Well... I suppose Kvothe is the first literary example of a multiclassed Bard/Thief/MU/Fighter. ;)  

In addition the first book especially was very YA orientated, and given its popularity would be a good gateway into playing D&D for the first time.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: jibbajibba on September 22, 2014, 03:45:19 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;788086Maybe his stuff isn't that great (I haven't read any of it and so cannot say). Regardless, he used to play D&D and now is mentioned as an author of readable fantasy inspiration in the latest edition. That should count for something.

They all are though.

the latest crop of Fantasy authors all grew up with D&D.
You can see it in quotes from Scott Lynch, Joe Ambercrombie, even George fucking Martin so ... Even going back to Fiest and Weis,  not saying its bad just saying it's hardly atypical

Check out this - http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2012/01/articles/guest-post-geeks-come-home-10-sff-authors-play-dd-together-by-brent-weeks/
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Loz on September 22, 2014, 07:17:05 PM
QuoteWell... I suppose Kvothe is the first literary example of a multiclassed Bard/Thief/MU/Fighter.

Kvothe is, without a doubt, the first literary protagonist that I've wanted to concuss, repeatedly, with planks.

Still, the 'King Killer Chronicles' is definitely a very good D&D primer.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: The Butcher on September 22, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: Loz;788197Kvothe is, without a doubt, the first literary protagonist that I've wanted to concuss, repeatedly, with planks.

I take it you've never read a Dragonlance or a Forgotten Realms novel?
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Loz on September 22, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;788198I take it you've never read a Dragonlance or a Forgotten Realms novel?

I haven't. I take it they'd upset me?

:)
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: danbuter on September 22, 2014, 08:35:02 PM
There are some very good FR novels. There's also a lot of trash.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: The Butcher on September 22, 2014, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: Loz;788208I haven't. I take it they'd upset me?

:)

Your proposed treatment of Kvothe sounds positively humane next to the fate I'd reserve for Drizzt or Tasslehoff.

Quote from: danbuter;788210There are some very good FR novels. There's also a lot of trash.

I freely admit to not having read a lot of them. The ones I did read I disliked.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: flyerfan1991 on September 23, 2014, 12:02:07 AM
Quote from: The Butcher;788219Your proposed treatment of Kvothe sounds positively humane next to the fate I'd reserve for Drizzt or Tasslehoff.



I freely admit to not having read a lot of them. The ones I did read I disliked.

Tasslehoff's so-called comic relief makes Jar Jar look sane.
Title: Patrich Rothfuss on D&D
Post by: Imperator on September 23, 2014, 05:44:15 AM
Quote from: Loz;788208I haven't. I take it they'd upset me?

:)
I would apply the treatment you propose to the entire population of those worlds. Many times.