I wish they had brought in more artists for PF. I do not hate the art of Wayne Reynolds just tited of it and his style jyst comes off as so much mire of the same.

Mind you the whole SJW puritanical take on Seoni is a good laugh. Oh now the character is showing too much skin. Not really that much and theg came out with a tattoo magic feat which I think the character had at later levels. Her new outfit which covers the character from head to toe is made out of unstable molecules I guess.

Given how they ruined Ogres in PF them suddenly becomung too WOKE  is also as funny as can be.

Quote from: sureshot;1082018I wish they had brought in more artists for PF. I do not hate the art of Wayne Reynolds just tited of it and his style jyst comes off as so much mire of the same.

Mind you the whole SJW puritanical take on Seoni is a good laugh. Oh now the character is showing too much skin. Not really that much and theg came out with a tattoo magic feat which I think the character had at later levels. Her new outfit which covers the character from head to toe is made out of unstable molecules I guess.

Given how they ruined Ogres in PF them suddenly becomung too WOKE  is also as funny as can be.

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What did they do to Ogres? Ogres are awesome. You can make them right evil marauding bastards, kind of neutral, barbarian types, or even make them rough, simple, but pretty good too. Ogres are very flexible and cool.

How do you fuck up Ogres?

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SHARK

Easy Shark.

Combine the hillbillies from Deliverance and mix them with the mutants from the Hills have Eyes and you have the Pathfinder Ogres. Complete with the worst behaviors of both combined into one. A case of next time leave well enough alone.

Hearing a Parhfinder Ogre say " squeal like a little Kobold SQUEAL! "...would not be out of character for a Pathfinder Ogre.

Quote from: Daztur;1082006Vaporware is a thing?

What's vaporware?  It's a playable game that has a decent amount of subscribers.

Quote from: sureshot;1082024Easy Shark.

Combine the hillbillies from Deliverance and mix them with the mutants from the Hills have Eyes and you have the Pathfinder Ogres. Complete with the worst behaviors of both combined into one. A case of next time leave well enough alone.

Hearing a Parhfinder Ogre say " squeal like a little Kobold SQUEAL! "...would not be out of character for a Pathfinder Ogre.

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SQUEAL!!!! SQUEAL LIKE A LITTE KOBOLD!! LOL. Wow. Deliverance Hillbillies and...the The Hills Have Eyes Mutants. Yeah. I see, my friend. That's what all the fuss has been about with PF. You know, I can see why more and more people are deeply bothered by PF *editorial* choices.

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SHARK

Quote from: kythri;1082029What's vaporware?  It's a playable game that has a decent amount of subscribers.

It isn't exactly vapor (like the White Wolf Online nonsense), but it has been beta quality (at best) product for quite some time. The first posts about it were in 2011 and "early enrollment" since late 2018.

Early enrollment is described as "The objective is to begin with a "minimum viable product", and then expand the game in a feedback-driven process."

I suspect that they simply cannot call it quits because of the impact it would have on Paizo and Kickstarter supporters. I also suspect they are running on as few people as possible, given the state of the site and how they are unable to update their site copyright since 2015, and they are still using one promotional movie for it...also from 2015. They really jumped into development with no real idea what they were doing.

Pathfinder Hillbilly rapist cannibal ogres seem a lot closer to most of the origin myths for the monster, where they are often basically evil man-sized cannibals ambushing people on lonely roads, than their usual use as 'dumb Gygaxian horde brute'. Not a huge fan of the gore-porn in Hook Mountain Massacre, though.

Quote from: S'mon;1082147Pathfinder Hillbilly rapist cannibal ogres seem a lot closer to most of the origin myths for the monster, where they are often basically evil man-sized cannibals ambushing people on lonely roads, than their usual use as 'dumb Gygaxian horde brute'. Not a huge fan of the gore-porn in Hook Mountain Massacre, though.

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LOL! "Gore Porn"? S'mon? I'm not familiar with the Hook Mountain Massacre, my friend. What do they have the hillbilly ogres do in that book?

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SHARK

Quote from: SHARK;1082154Greetings!

LOL! "Gore Porn"? S'mon? I'm not familiar with the Hook Mountain Massacre, my friend. What do they have the hillbilly ogres do in that book?

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SHARK

You'll need to go read it, but there's lots of "bouquet of severed fingers" type stuff.
However rest assured that only straight white human males were raped mutilated and eaten in the making of this motion picture. The unfortunate Black Arrow Rangers appear to be the only all-male force on Golarion!

Quote from: S'mon;1082162You'll need to go read it, but there's lots of "bouquet of severed fingers" type stuff.
However rest assured that only straight white human males were raped mutilated and eaten in the making of this motion picture. The unfortunate Black Arrow Rangers appear to be the only all-male force on Golarion!

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LOL! ROLLING. Oh damn. That's fucking cool, my friend. Interesting. Of course, only white males get raped and eaten by the Hillbilly Ogres. Wow. No wonder PF has been getting barbecued by so many people for such modules.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK;1082164Greetings!

LOL! ROLLING. Oh damn. That's fucking cool, my friend. Interesting. Of course, only white males get raped and eaten by the Hillbilly Ogres. Wow. No wonder PF has been getting barbecued by so many people for such modules.

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SHARK

What is worse it that apparently they had to tone down what the dev originally submitted before putting that section to print. It was much worse than what you see now in the Hook mountain massacre. They section further suffers for putting the Ogres in fort made for humans putting them at a disadvantage and making it easier for the player characters to wipe them out. I just find it funny that they have a goddess of lust https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Calistria whose Clerics main weapon of choice is a Whip. As well as having umm "sacred" prostitutes in their temples. I'm just wondering how she distracted Rovagug while two gods created that gods prison. Did she sleep (ewwww) with Rovagug?  Yet they are now all of sudden on the fully woke train.

Quote from: sureshot;1082168I just find it funny that they have a goddess of lust https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Calistria whose Clerics main weapon of choice is a Whip. As well as having umm "sacred" prostitutes in their temples. I'm just wondering how she distracted Rovagug while two gods created that gods prison. Did she sleep (ewwww) with Rovagug?  Yet they are now all of sudden on the fully woke train.

Woke and sexual degeneracy go hand in hand... so long as it's "consensual." If they had their way they'd drop age of "consent" to five and declare that "baa" and "moo" means "yes."

If you actually created a fantasy death cult that desires infanticide, pedophilia, bestiality, eugenics and the murder of all those who can no longer benefit the cult's leaders you'd be tarred as going completely over the top... yet every single one of those is touted as a moral good by elements of the Woke.

There is no bottom to their depravity, just another ledge from which to continue the descent.

Quote from: Chris24601;1082181Woke and sexual degeneracy go hand in hand... so long as it's "consensual." If they had their way they'd drop age of "consent" to five and declare that "baa" and "moo" means "yes."

If you actually created a fantasy death cult that desires infanticide, pedophilia, bestiality, eugenics and the murder of all those who can no longer benefit the cult's leaders you'd be tarred as going completely over the top... yet every single one of those is touted as a moral good by elements of the Woke.

There is no bottom to their depravity, just another ledge from which to continue the descent.

I disagree that the "Woke" crowd is that depraved, they're actually quite sex-negative to the point of being secular Puritans, especially when heterosexual sex is involved or if the characters are drawn in an anime style. Even gay male relationships are being looked down on lately.

The only depravity allowed in the "woke" crowd is if it involves lesbians or transgender people.

Quote from: Chris24601;1082181Woke and sexual degeneracy go hand in hand... so long as it's "consensual." If they had their way they'd drop age of "consent" to five and declare that "baa" and "moo" means "yes."

If you actually created a fantasy death cult that desires infanticide, pedophilia, bestiality, eugenics and the murder of all those who can no longer benefit the cult's leaders you'd be tarred as going completely over the top... yet every single one of those is touted as a moral good by elements of the Woke.

There is no bottom to their depravity, just another ledge from which to continue the descent.

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Indeed, Chris, the Liberals and SJW's are *Increasing* in their bizarre depravity. I've seen where SJW's have championed various Liberal psychologists that have come out in support of NAMBLA. This clown even wrote a peer-reviewed paper supporting adults having sexual relations with children, and talking about how children are capable of enjoying sex, and social taboos against such are "reactionary and misguided." There's also been several other such fine psychologists, doctors, and authors that apparently have jumped on supporting such a bandwagon. I've read where various academic Liberals have embraced the ideas of continuously lowering the "Age of Consent" to the age of 12, or younger, arguing that children can embrace the "joys of consensual sex." Evidently, as you mentioned, there's also a growing consciousness that bestiality--especially sexual relations with dogs--is growing in popularity, and more are embracing that as a wondrous expression of sexuality. I keep hearing snippets that incest is also *lessening* in its taboo.

Going back years, most of this was entirely unheard of. In recent times, though, it does seem like the Liberals and SJW's are just opening the gates to pursue any kind of sex--like you said, with no limits, and an endless descent.

And all of this debauchery is embraced and promoted by the SJW's. It's a constant river of degeneracy with them.

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SHARK

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1082309I disagree that the "Woke" crowd is that depraved, they're actually quite sex-negative to the point of being secular Puritans, especially when heterosexual sex is involved or if the characters are drawn in an anime style. Even gay male relationships are being looked down on lately.

Agreed. The very notion that two people might meet at a gaming convention and decide to pursue sexual relations sends these folks straight to the fainting couch. One of the reasons older feminists are so baffled with today's activists is older feminists wanted to break down barriers to women going out and drinking, having sex, etc. the way men did, and today's feminists find that sort of behaviour scary and gross. Then factor is how socially anxious and cloistered a lot of millennial nerds are, and you've got a very puritanical scene.

The interesting question for me is why nerd hobbies are so disproportionately afflicted by woke dogma. Compare, say, a softball tournament, a music festival, and SF/F con, and how they treat sexual behaviour. Why is the latter so much more Woke and anxious - to the point of near-hysteria - than the others?