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Party NPCs in 5E

Started by mAcular Chaotic, February 24, 2015, 10:58:52 PM

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mAcular Chaotic

February 24, 2015, 10:58:52 PM
How exactly are you supposed to handle NPCs traveling with the party and helping them fight?

For example, in the LMoP Starter Set, there is the character Sildar. The book explicitly states to give him experience as if he was a player, if he helps the players defeat enemies.

The problem is that all you get for him is a stat block; there is nothing saying what happens with that experience. Is it just supposed to disappear into the void? Or is there something I'm missing? Right now the players grumble because he's eating up experience but isn't going to level up or anything for it.
Battle doesn\'t need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don\'t ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don\'t ask why I fight.

Omega

#1
February 24, 2015, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;817518The problem is that all you get for him is a stat block; there is nothing saying what happens with that experience. Is it just supposed to disappear into the void? Or is there something I'm missing? Right now the players grumble because he's eating up experience but isn't going to level up or anything for it.

Like NPCs in other editions and games. The NPC levels up eventually if they have a class. If they do not have a class then either the EXP goes into the aether or you can use the DMG rules for levelling up monsters.

Either the DM can handle the NPC and decisions, or they can let the players handle the NPC and all that.

tuypo1

#2
February 24, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
I assume you are meant to just give him more levels. but they did fuck up they should have provided stats for later levels

Is he a magic user maybe have him make some items for them although i assume he is only level 1 so probably not.

does 5e have any multi person rituals he can contribute the xp to
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mAcular Chaotic

#3
February 24, 2015, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: tuypo1;817522I assume you are meant to just give him more levels. but they did fuck up they should have provided stats for later levels

Is he a magic user maybe have him make some items for them although i assume he is only level 1 so probably not.

does 5e have any multi person rituals he can contribute the xp to

It doesn't say what level he is. He doesn't have a level. How would you even know what he gains in level, without all of the normal class stuff? He doesn't have a class either.
Battle doesn\'t need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don\'t ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don\'t ask why I fight.

tuypo1

#4
February 24, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
well shit that is lazy adventure writing

does it say how many hit die he has or is it just the hp total and nothing else because if he is given a hit die total use that to work out how much health per hit die and increase that along with all the other benefits of raised hit dice

in fact what you do know is he is humanoid work backwards from the knowledge his hit die are most likely humanoid sized and go from there
If your having tier problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but caster supremacy aint 1.

Apology\'s if there is no punctuation in the above post its probably my autism making me forget.

tuypo1

#5
February 24, 2015, 11:16:25 PM
of course make sure you work out how many hit die first before you go adding things so you know how much experience he will need to gain hit die

alternatively give him a fighter or at least a warrior level

if you can work out how many die he has but not what type just find a way to give him some templates with equivalent level adjustment each time he would be entitled to a new hit die or possibly save it up a little for a better template
If your having tier problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but caster supremacy aint 1.

Apology\'s if there is no punctuation in the above post its probably my autism making me forget.

mAcular Chaotic

#6
February 24, 2015, 11:25:25 PM
How would you normally figure out how many hit dice something has?

It's basically like a monster stat block.
Battle doesn\'t need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don\'t ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don\'t ask why I fight.

tuypo1

#7
February 24, 2015, 11:38:50 PM
math they might have changed it for 5e but in 3.5 humoniods have d8 hit die work out how many hit points he has and assuming that the he is getting the average for each die divide that by his hp to get his level equivalent

you may need to adjust for the first level getting max hp from the hit die depending on how they stated him up
If your having tier problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but caster supremacy aint 1.

Apology\'s if there is no punctuation in the above post its probably my autism making me forget.

tuypo1

#8
February 24, 2015, 11:39:48 PM
so check the 5e monster manual
If your having tier problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but caster supremacy aint 1.

Apology\'s if there is no punctuation in the above post its probably my autism making me forget.

Omega

#9
February 25, 2015, 12:43:06 AM
Well what is he statted as?

I mean he must have something like

AC:16 (chain shirt and shield)
Hit Points:  11 (2d8+2)
Spear

mAcular Chaotic

#10
February 25, 2015, 01:17:50 AM
Quote from: Omega;817554Well what is he statted as?

I mean he must have something like

AC:16 (chain shirt and shield)
Hit Points:  11 (2d8+2)
Spear

Battle doesn\'t need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don\'t ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don\'t ask why I fight.

tuypo1

#11
February 25, 2015, 01:22:33 AM
yeah he has 5 hit die (basicly levels) so just add another humanoid hit die and everything that comes with that
If your having tier problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but caster supremacy aint 1.

Apology\'s if there is no punctuation in the above post its probably my autism making me forget.

mAcular Chaotic

#12
February 25, 2015, 01:25:13 AM
What else comes with it? I thought adding a hit die was just increasing the character's HP. I have no prior experience with this.
Battle doesn\'t need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don\'t ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don\'t ask why I fight.

tuypo1

#13
February 25, 2015, 01:31:52 AM
i cant help you there i dont know the specifics of it in 5e but in 3e it is d8 hp, 3/4 base attack bonus, a good saving throw that varies but the saving throw system is completely changed for 5e so i dont think that helps and 2+int modifier skill points so you will need to decide what skills to give him

but thats 3.5 wait until somebody who knows the 5e details gets here
If your having tier problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but caster supremacy aint 1.

Apology\'s if there is no punctuation in the above post its probably my autism making me forget.

tuypo1

#14
February 25, 2015, 01:33:58 AM
although his only skill is 2 perception which does not make any sense so maybe they threw out the system completely for 5e in which case i am extremely embarrassed
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