I still think we should be calling it a horcrux.

Quote from: Zalman on November 06, 2021, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: trechriron on November 05, 2021, 02:00:45 PM
Instead of renaming everything, why not invite some people of those ethnicities to write a supplement?

That's the most racist suggestion I've heard all week ... and I even read the news yesterday!

"Are you one of those ethnicities? We need more of you people to write games for us."

"Some of our best game designers are Jews!"

That will never happen because the wokies know that people of those ethnicities would themselves use "offensive" language...  How dare a black man use words that white liberals have declared offensive to black men...

Removing WORDS that certain people find offensive changes D&D completely. "Cleric" or "Druid" or "Barbarian" immediately strike up a nasty discussion of "culturally-offensive". Some modern cultures call Muslims "barbarian". Some modern cultures still use "Cleric" to describe various priests. Some cultures would call "Druids" modern eco-terrorists with anarchistic leanings. All of it plays into the Twitterati's constant moaning about what is "Right And Good."

I would offer them a clean approach to Anarchism but the Twitterati would just call me a "jaded Leftist" who doesn't respect their leaning towards fashionable consumerism. This is why I avoid Twitter: there's no real logic being recognized there. It's just "what they want and what they don't want is cultural terrorism".

Fuck. These. People.

Quote from: Theory of Games on November 06, 2021, 07:08:47 PM
Removing WORDS that certain people find offensive changes D&D completely. "Cleric" or "Druid" or "Barbarian" immediately strike up a nasty discussion of "culturally-offensive". Some modern cultures call Muslims "barbarian". Some modern cultures still use "Cleric" to describe various priests. Some cultures would call "Druids" modern eco-terrorists with anarchistic leanings. All of it plays into the Twitterati's constant moaning about what is "Right And Good."

I would offer them a clean approach to Anarchism but the Twitterati would just call me a "jaded Leftist" who doesn't respect their leaning towards fashionable consumerism. This is why I avoid Twitter: there's no real logic being recognized there. It's just "what they want and what they don't want is cultural terrorism".

Fuck. These. People.

Pretty sure they'd call you an "Alt-Right White Nationalist Nazi CHUD Troll" or something, but yes you've got the right idea otherwise. These people are aligned with all the worst aspects of Chaos: Destroying established structures (good or bad), no end goal and constantly changing their focus to keep going. The only end goal is when they eat themselves like the Ouroboros.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 05, 2021, 10:39:47 PM

Quote from: trechriron on November 05, 2021, 10:17:32 PM
I have to admit, some voices here are making good sense. I do find the hand-wringing to be overly dramatic. I'm one of those bleeding-heart types that wants to see the good in people.

Equality or equity is a good clarification. I like that. I am seeking equity. Where everyone has an equal opportunity.

I didn't mean to suggest people should force others to adopt their language. I don't agree with that at all. And changing the term to "Soul Cage" was a poor choice IMHO. Everyone should just call it "Phylactery" and ignore the virtue signaling. Paizo can't MAKE you change what you call it.

The rest of the sabre rattling here about CRT, communism, and conspiracy theories about SJWs taking our RPGs I will leave for a discussion elsewhere in the forum. 

Bolding mine:

"Equal opportunity" to do what? to be what? I'm dead serious, how are you going to get that when humans are born with different capacities?

Is equity to put racial/sexual/etc quotas on hiring? How is that not open racial/sexual/etc discrimination?

How are you going to know when said equality of opportunity has been achieved?

Easy.
Read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut way back in 1961.
Everyone is forced to be equal. You can sure as hell bet there are loons in the woke community who will use that as a road map to the future - instead of a warning. We already have a faction pushing to force everyone to be gay.
Remember. There is no limit to how insane these things pretending to be human beings will get.

Ray Bradbury had a few on this too with his future where books are burned because they might upset someone. Cemeteries are dug up and burned because they might frighten someone.

Quote from: Omega on November 07, 2021, 01:58:29 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 05, 2021, 10:39:47 PM

Quote from: trechriron on November 05, 2021, 10:17:32 PM
I have to admit, some voices here are making good sense. I do find the hand-wringing to be overly dramatic. I'm one of those bleeding-heart types that wants to see the good in people.

Equality or equity is a good clarification. I like that. I am seeking equity. Where everyone has an equal opportunity.

I didn't mean to suggest people should force others to adopt their language. I don't agree with that at all. And changing the term to "Soul Cage" was a poor choice IMHO. Everyone should just call it "Phylactery" and ignore the virtue signaling. Paizo can't MAKE you change what you call it.

The rest of the sabre rattling here about CRT, communism, and conspiracy theories about SJWs taking our RPGs I will leave for a discussion elsewhere in the forum. 

Bolding mine:

"Equal opportunity" to do what? to be what? I'm dead serious, how are you going to get that when humans are born with different capacities?

Is equity to put racial/sexual/etc quotas on hiring? How is that not open racial/sexual/etc discrimination?

How are you going to know when said equality of opportunity has been achieved?

Easy.
Read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut way back in 1961.
Everyone is forced to be equal. You can sure as hell bet there are loons in the woke community who will use that as a road map to the future - instead of a warning. We already have a faction pushing to force everyone to be gay.
Remember. There is no limit to how insane these things pretending to be human beings will get.

Ray Bradbury had a few on this too with his future where books are burned because they might upset someone. Cemeteries are dug up and burned because they might frighten someone.

I've read both, Yeah, we're living in a cyberpunk dystopia with none of the cool things.

Another forum gave me bullshit reasons we can't use "horcrux."

"J.K. Rowling will sue us!" No she fucking can't you fucking morons, you can't copyright a word goddammit. I've found several books on google using it without being sued. Fuck you.

"J.K. Rowling is problematic!" So that means you can't use a fucking neologism she coined? Every author is problematic if you comb through their works and biographies for evidence. All languages and all words are problematic by that standard, because they all descend from societies where women were property and children were sacrificed. Fuck you woke morons.

but. but why?

Is a phylactery somehow sexual? Is it racist, misogynystic or it discriminates againts other necromancers(...wonderfull people i hear)? Who even knows anymore.

QuoteAnother forum gave me bullshit reasons we can't use "horcrux."

"J.K. Rowling will sue us!" No she fucking can't you fucking morons, you can't copyright a word goddammit. I've found several books on google using it without being sued. Fuck you.

"J.K. Rowling is problematic!" So that means you can't use a fucking neologism she coined? Every author is problematic if you comb through their works and biographies for evidence. All languages and all words are problematic by that standard, because they all descend from societies where women were property and children were sacrificed. Fuck you woke morons.

I won't use horcrux because that name sucks. Depends of culture of lich I'd use babestu, bujeog, jimat, ruhkafesi, aldhakhayir, príhovor or aiya iku.
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Horcrux is a dull name. It only sounds cool if your a HP fan.

I'll take the (sanatized) SNL term of "junk in a box" over soul cage, especially if the lich in question is abard and sings about how he became a lich. Perhaps he has a dried up partner and we get to hear "mummy lover" after that...

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on November 07, 2021, 09:54:38 AM
Horcrux is a dull name. It only sounds cool if your a HP fan.

Fair enough.

What do think of animarium? From Latin anima "soul" + -arium "container."

Why would there be only one word.

Let's make dozens.

For instance in High Elven it can be fëamírë and in Wood Elven faecolch.

Call it a "Soul Gem" and make jokes about the Lich in question being a powerful magical girl.

Quote from: Wrath of God on November 07, 2021, 11:44:53 AM
Why would there be only one word.

Let's make dozens.

For instance in High Elven it can be fëamírë and in Wood Elven faecolch.

Yes. Soul jar, soul gem, soul cage, soul container, horcrux, animarium, sool jim, etc.

The beauty of natural languages is that there are multiple ways to name and describe things. It's something that I feel geek/nerd culture has forgotten in its rampant OCD

While we're at it, let's add names to the D&D lich to be more inclusive of liches that aren't undead wizards with soul cages. Koschies, voldemorts, elder liches, lich mages, lich knights, lich priests, skeleton mages, necrolytes, zombie masters, corpses...

I always thought "zombie" was anachronistic in a European fantasy setting, since the monster itself is of Afro-Caribbean origin. Clark Ashton Smith called them liches. http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/short-stories/61/the-empire-of-the-necromancers