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Paizo policing language: Phalactery is now a Soul Cage

Started by sunsteel, October 30, 2021, 12:40:01 PM

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GriswaldTerrastone

Quote from: trechriron on November 03, 2021, 04:49:36 PM
Witch - hardly an offensive class name when you consider 5e's Warlock, which in the tradition is a Witch that has been cast out. This doesn't bother me, it's a game not a religious reference.

This name change reads more like "make it something easier to understand" vs. "Think of the jews!". I agree any focus on protecting jews is virtue signaling. Have we asked any Jewish people or religious leaders how they feel about the use of the word? I'm sure there are Jewish scholars who spend significant time around translations, and they have some expertise in words.

The outrage brigade are blindly swinging cancel-culture witch-hunts like mad barbarians. Everyone is angry and out for blood. There is no reasoning with the mob. Honestly, it's something that terrifies me when thinking about putting my own stuff out there. Critical thinking isn't supposed to = angry negative thinking that results in destruction.


In this case, I have to agree with that company's decision.

Let's face it- and the fact that I might get banned just for pointing this out proves it- ANYTHING that offends any Jewish group or organization is not a smart thing to keep doing. White straight men are fair game, but if the aforementioned-groups start any rumblings, it is best to immediately yield.
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S'mon

I asked on ENW if anyone was actually offended by lich phylacteries, given that apparently no one had complained in 45 years. Two Jewish guys there said they were not offended, but supported the name change anyway.
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S'mon

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on November 03, 2021, 05:51:05 PM
Let's face it- and the fact that I might get banned just for pointing this out proves it- ANYTHING that offends any Jewish group or organization is not a smart thing to keep doing. White straight men are fair game, but if the aforementioned-groups start any rumblings, it is best to immediately yield.

No one was actually offended. The ADL were not coming for Paizo.
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Shrieking Banshee

Even if jews where offended: so what?

Since when is offense a valid reason for censorship?

Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: S'mon on November 03, 2021, 06:01:31 PM
I asked on ENW if anyone was actually offended by lich phylacteries, given that apparently no one had complained in 45 years. Two Jewish guys there said they were not offended, but supported the name change anyway.

Fuck those jews. Feels nice to have people suck you off without even asking eh?

GriswaldTerrastone

#80
ANY rumblings from that group. As far as I can remember the ADL is trying to claim the Barbary Coast Pirates never really existed because they raided Northern Europe for slaves- even attacking the coasts of Ireland- and that group was involved in the financial aspects, as with the American-African slave trade, but any black activist whom points this out is quickly ruined.

It's the same reason Obama got in trouble for trying to bring attention to The Holodomor, which took place during the WW2 era- yet we supported the evil and murderous Soviet Union. Again, I might get banned for pointing these things out.

If I am going to get banned, then, well, it was nice knowing you all here. I'll also mention that on Youtube is a video made shortly after Trump's 2016 victory: "Is Trump good for the Jews?" This was produced by Jews- if the video is still there look at the comments under it, they are EXCEEDINGLY hostile. This should be a warning that that group's behavior and arrogance is once again getting it into hot water; my Dutch relatives- obviously very liberal- themselves were becoming less than sympathetic- and we are talking about the DUTCH for crying out loud, not a people known for their love of Nazis.
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Shasarak

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on November 03, 2021, 06:11:18 PM
ANY rumblings from that group. As far as I can remember the ADL is trying to claim the Barbary Coast Pirates never really existed because they raided Northern Europe for slaves- even attacking the coasts of Ireland- and that group was involved in the financial aspects, as with the American-African slave trade, but any black activist whom points this out is quickly ruined.

It's the same reason Obama got in trouble for trying to bring attention to The Holodomor, which took place during the WW2 era- yet we supported the evil and murderous Soviet Union. Again, I might get banned for pointing these things out.

If I am going to get banned, then, well, it was nice knowing you all here. I'll also mention that on Youtube is a video made shortly after Trump's 2016 victory: "Is Trump good for the Jews?" This was produced by Jews- if the video is still there look at the comments under it, they are EXCEEDINGLY hostile. This should be a warning that that group's behavior and arrogance is once again getting it into hot water; my Dutch relatives- obviously very liberal- themselves were becoming less than sympathetic- and we are talking about the DUTCH for crying out loud, not a people known for their love of Nazis.

"The Jews" are not a monolithic entity.  ;)
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GriswaldTerrastone

#82
Wrong. They are very tribal, network with one another, and will not tolerate any criticism. While we are being told we must be "multi-cultural" and accept floods of "migrants" into white nations Israel has declared itself a Zionist nation, has walls armed with mace cannons, and dual-citizens determine our foreign policy in the Middle East. Now we are being pushed into war with Iran. 

It's a shame I have to be saying this, but after decades of being bashed- as a white straight male albeit not Christian (my beliefs are best described as Eastern)- in media and by groups run by Jews, I just cannot remain silent any longer.

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Godfather Punk

I think the only reason to get banned would be if you continue discussing politics in the rpg section of this forum.

GriswaldTerrastone

#84
Even though it relates as to WHY that word was being banned from the game? If any and all religious references (e.g. bishop, etc.) would also be banned then fine, but that's not happening.
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Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on November 03, 2021, 06:53:40 PM
Even though it relates as to WHY that word was being banned from the game? If any and all religious references (e.g. bishop, etc.) would also be banned then fine, but that's not happening.
Its because your repeating one point over and over and literally asking to be banned. Paizo has shown a utter lack of spine and has beggun banning everything pre-emptively.
I don't think the ADL is in any way involved.

trechriron

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on November 03, 2021, 06:36:56 PM
Wrong. They are very tribal, network with one another, and will not tolerate any criticism. While we are being told we must be "multi-cultural" and accept floods of "migrants" into white nations Israel has declared itself a Zionist nation, has walls armed with mace cannons, and dual-citizens determine our foreign policy in the Middle East. Now we are being pushed into war with Iran. 

It's a shame I have to be saying this, but after decades of being bashed- as a white straight male albeit not Christian (my beliefs are best described as Eastern)- in media and by groups run by Jews, I just cannot remain silent any longer.

This whole post is a white nationalist "dog whistle" attached to a loudspeaker. What a load of crap. This view is so narrow and misinformed I would agitate to have the anti-semitic site you memorized it from - fined for corruption of a minor.

Responding to one tempest in a teacup with another tempest in a teacup is both hilarious and unuseful. There is nothing wrong with modifying language in an attempt to be more respectful. No one TOLD Paizo to do this. Is the constant hand-wringing about cultural appropriation, racist races, subliminal white oppression, and the like... blown way out of proportion? Yes. Should some of the guilt-ridden couch-bound ne'er-do-wells find something actually useful to do besides police everyone on the intertubes? Absolutely.

Is there some grand conspiracy by "The Jews" to ruin the RPG hobby and thereby YOUR LIFE? Nope. That my friend is truly a delusion of yours reinforced by your tiny echo chamber and the constant screaming into a mirror to reinforce that delusion. Maybe focus on what you like about RPGs, the games you want to play, the fun you are having and stop spending so much time imagining you're a victim of a conspiracy?

These are GAMES after all. Meant to be played with people you like. Having fun...
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast

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Shasarak

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on November 03, 2021, 06:36:56 PM
Wrong. They are very tribal, network with one another, and will not tolerate any criticism.

You have never met a Jewish person, right?   ???

There are plenty of other religions that wont tolerate criticism.

Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Zelen

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Quote from: Abraxus on November 01, 2021, 02:53:39 PM
Only time will tell before the word Golem is going to be considered " problematic  and offensive "

In their quest to be extreme virtue signallers as possible they come off looking like not just Woke also as amateurish when doing so.

Well, Golem is actually Jewish. Phylacteries are not.
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