Quote from: Mistwell on November 01, 2021, 01:15:47 AM

I am really curious who they thought was offended by this word?

Jews, naturally.

Keep in mind these people tend to be /very/ divorced from reality, let alone their consumer base. They do not have their business priorities in order, because to them capitalism is evil and Pathfinder is just a tool to spread propaganda.

Quote from: Wrath of God on October 31, 2021, 07:27:37 PM

QuoteSource on this?

Thaumaturge playtest for upcoming books on their forums.

QuoteOccultism is one of the 4 schools of magic in Pathfinder 2nd edition. Which I always thought was a terrible and nonsense name, particularly given that "Occult" school of magic is used by Bards, Investigators, and other such classes.

Revamping bard as occult class is MEH. He should be jack of all trades TBH with limited access to all school traditions if anything.
Occult is renamed term for PF1 psychic magic, and I honestly cannot say which one I prefer. In PF1 psychic magic was used by psychics, mesmerists, occultists, mediums and spiritualists.

At least psychic magic had some interesting variances (it didn't use standard verbal/somatic components, for starters).

QuoteAt least psychic magic had some interesting variances (it didn't use standard verbal/somatic components, for starters).

Indeed.
Nevertheless TBH all those additional magic system in D&D variants usually suffers because they are still build on top of classic D&D classes, rather than having whole proper metaphysics build from up to down.

Quote from: PsyXypher on November 01, 2021, 01:58:07 AM

Quote from: Mistwell on November 01, 2021, 01:15:47 AM

I am really curious who they thought was offended by this word?

Jews, naturally.

Keep in mind these people tend to be /very/ divorced from reality, let alone their consumer base. They do not have their business priorities in order, because to them capitalism is evil and Pathfinder is just a tool to spread propaganda.

Eventually they will ban Jews from playing because they make jewish jokes and thats offensive to jews so jews cant play anymore. Because you have to protect those poor minorities. From themselves. Its already started.

Quote from: SHARK on October 30, 2021, 04:09:31 PM
Greetings!

"Baizuo has noted that there are some that have considered the use of the term "Phylactery" in the game as being "problematic"."

It would be nice if some of these owners, developers, writers, management, etc, would just tell people that believe something is "problematic" to fuck it in their ass and shut the fuck up.

How about no one fucking cares if you feel something is "problematic". Cry, sobbing bitch. Welcome to the real world. The real world doesn't care what hurts your feelings, or whatever you feel is "problematic". And you know what else? There's lots of places where anyone crying about things like this would just get curb-stomped to death, right there on the spot. How's that sound for being "problematic"?

Fucking snot-nosed, crybaby bitches. The world is full of offensive, insulting things. I get insulted and offended and believe lots of things are "problematic"--but that doesn't mean the world gives a fuck about what I feel though, isn't that right? Well, why doesn't the world run and gibber and bow the fuck down to whatever *I* think is "problematic"? That's right. Only special individuals have that power and status, evidently.

Our whole society is being run through with a mental an ideological Marxist virus. It's no wonder people are just going off and start fucking killing people randomly, enraged.

Baizuo is a fucking cucked company, and their days are fucking numbered now that they have kneeled down to the fucking troglodyte employees demaning a union.

Who gives a fuck about Baizuo, or what they do with Pathfinder? Baizuo is becoming more an more irrelevant with each passing day.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds the word "problematic" ridiculous. It's just a multi-syllabic way of saying "bad." That's how I mentally translate it when I read crap written by SJWs or those bowing before them. It puts their toddler-like thought processes into stark relief (apologies to toddlers everywhere).

Quote from: PsyXypher on November 01, 2021, 01:58:07 AM

Quote from: Mistwell on November 01, 2021, 01:15:47 AM

I am really curious who they thought was offended by this word?

Jews, naturally.

Keep in mind these people tend to be /very/ divorced from reality, let alone their consumer base. They do not have their business priorities in order, because to them capitalism is evil and Pathfinder is just a tool to spread propaganda.

But, we don't call it a Phalactery! That's a Greek word. What did they do, read a Wikipedia entry or something and never ask someone who is Jewish? I've been around reformed, conservative, orthodox, and even reconstructionist Jews and not a single one has ever used the word Phalactery...unless they were playing D&D and we were fighting a lich.

Quote from: Mistwell on November 01, 2021, 11:21:03 AM

Quote from: PsyXypher on November 01, 2021, 01:58:07 AM

Quote from: Mistwell on November 01, 2021, 01:15:47 AM

I am really curious who they thought was offended by this word?

Jews, naturally.

Keep in mind these people tend to be /very/ divorced from reality, let alone their consumer base. They do not have their business priorities in order, because to them capitalism is evil and Pathfinder is just a tool to spread propaganda.

But, we don't call it a Phalactery! That's a Greek word. What did they do, read a Wikipedia entry or something and never ask someone who is Jewish? I've been around reformed, conservative, orthodox, and even reconstructionist Jews and not a single one has ever used the word Phalactery...unless they were playing D&D and we were fighting a lich.

Indeed. Who even uses the word "phylactery" outside of a D&D context?

Mistwell it's Paizo just plain virtue signalling and hoping to get brownie points from the more Woke elements of the fan base. It's irrelevant if most Jews are not offended by the word, simply that Paizo is going to protect them from being offended. Whether Jews want it or not.

They have Witch as a class are they going to do another attempt at virtue signalling and change the name to Wiccan. Or might as well go back to the 2E name for Demons and Devils while we are at it.

Quote from: rytrasmi on November 01, 2021, 11:01:46 AM

Quote from: SHARK on October 30, 2021, 04:09:31 PM
Greetings!

"Baizuo has noted that there are some that have considered the use of the term "Phylactery" in the game as being "problematic"."

It would be nice if some of these owners, developers, writers, management, etc, would just tell people that believe something is "problematic" to fuck it in their ass and shut the fuck up.

How about no one fucking cares if you feel something is "problematic". Cry, sobbing bitch. Welcome to the real world. The real world doesn't care what hurts your feelings, or whatever you feel is "problematic". And you know what else? There's lots of places where anyone crying about things like this would just get curb-stomped to death, right there on the spot. How's that sound for being "problematic"?

Fucking snot-nosed, crybaby bitches. The world is full of offensive, insulting things. I get insulted and offended and believe lots of things are "problematic"--but that doesn't mean the world gives a fuck about what I feel though, isn't that right? Well, why doesn't the world run and gibber and bow the fuck down to whatever *I* think is "problematic"? That's right. Only special individuals have that power and status, evidently.

Our whole society is being run through with a mental an ideological Marxist virus. It's no wonder people are just going off and start fucking killing people randomly, enraged.

Baizuo is a fucking cucked company, and their days are fucking numbered now that they have kneeled down to the fucking troglodyte employees demaning a union.

Who gives a fuck about Baizuo, or what they do with Pathfinder? Baizuo is becoming more an more irrelevant with each passing day.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds the word "problematic" ridiculous. It's just a multi-syllabic way of saying "bad." That's how I mentally translate it when I read crap written by SJWs or those bowing before them. It puts their toddler-like thought processes into stark relief (apologies to toddlers everywhere).

Greetings!

That's right, my friend! I know, it totally drives me nuts! When did these weak, pathetic, whining people believe that *Them being offended or having their feelings hurt* became so fucking important, or meaningful in any way at all? I also get that, obviously, various elements in our society are catering to and coddling these sick, weak, delusional people--and our whole society is suffering enormously for it, in the process, too. I think it still remains true though, that much of the larger, real world, doesn't tolerate this bullshit, or give a fuck at all, and in fact, is distinctly hostile and violent towards the vast majority of people that believe this nonsense.

What happened to the ideas--the deep truths--that for you to ever succeed in reality as an adult, you simply must grow a thick skin? You have to accept that different people have different values, different expectations, different approaches to doing whatever, than you?

While some have obviously rebelled against the standard expectations, there used to also be a universal standard throughout society that dictated a variety of social norms, and enforced them, regardless of personal, individual opinions or feelings. There has always been a certain degree of tension--and flexibility--between the "Group Standards" and individual preferences or choices, but the essential foundations of behavior, of language, of conduct, of expectations, are there for a reason--so guarantee and enforce a social environment that is generally pleasant, law-abiding, and cooperative.

Fuck with that too much, insist on your fucking "Individualism" too much--and you are just going to get fucking curb-stomped and killed. *BLINK* Just like that. People being "offended" goes both ways--which can be an utter trainwreck and shitshow socially, if these peoplekeep pushing this bullshit.

Yeah, you are a boss at work. You tell an employee to do some task, or change the way they do things, because your the boss and you said so, that's why. Guess what? After lunch, or the next morning, the "offended" employee returns and just unloads on you and blows your fucking head off. Nice, huh?

Or how about you cutting someone off on the freeway, or otherwise "offending" them? Yeah, they pull up next to you, and blaze on you, motherfucker. How's that, bitch?

It's insane, my friend. And yet, we are seeing more and more of precisely these kinds of responses and actions, every day, every week. There simply must be a standard code, and everyone must abide and submit to it, or everyone goes fucking crazy and you can be fucking killed at a moment's notice, for "offending" someone. It's all well and good for all of these crying bitches that dramatically insist they have been "Offended!" Well, what happens when YOU or I, or one of these crying bitches OFFENDS someone else? Yeah, you see how all of this shit rapidly eats away and unravels our entire society?

People are fairly regularly getting shot and killed over arguing over a fucking Walmart parking space now. Or at Cost Co. This has happened again and again, recently. People killing you because you gave them luke-warm French Fries at the McDonalds drive thru. People being killed for offending someone while pumping gas at a gas station. This whole entitlement insanity is just going off the charts.

In gaming, we see this huge sense of entitlement insanity effecting everything too. It's absolutely ridiculous, and yet, the brain-fucked SJW's don't understand why the hobby is feeling more and more "divisive"? Well, I wonder why, jackass? When these SJW morons are offended by anything and everything, it gets to the point of where you have to ask yourself, "Do I need to include these kinds of people at my game table?" More questions arise, too. Why? Why do SJW's need to be tolerated or accepted in any way? They don't. Their arguments, their feelings, their screeching and shrieking like bitches can be simply ignored, but not just ignored--forcibly and passionately rejected. Their kind of emotional entitlement is--as part of the Marxist bullshit--corroding and poisoning our hobby at every level.

Pour some coffee, and light up a good pipe, friend. Or a cigar. I tend to enjoy both. Geesus, our society is going fucking nuts, right before our eyes.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Greetings!

All of these SJW's are cunts. Fuck them. They are humorless, ideological tyrants. Words get used by everyone, around the world. You don't like it? Too fucking bad.

As for Jews, when did phylactery somehow become whatever? It's a Greek word, describing an object. What is there to somehow be offended by? Everyone uses all kinds of words to describe items and objects all the time, using words from different cultures and religions, again, all the damned time. Why is that offensive? Bells, crosses, crucifixes, robes, fez's, turbans, veils, staffs, braziers, whatever. The lists are endless. Someone, somewhere, came up with them, and used them initially to describe some kind of object or item. Fantastic. What does that have anything to do with someone, somewhere, getting offended because that object or name of something is used for the same item or something similar in a fucking game?

Most real Jews I have known tend to have pretty good senses of humour, and seldom have any senses of ridiculous emotional entitlement. Many of the jokes, and humorous asides--and even criticisms!--of Jewish culture comes from JEWS! Jewish money, Jewish mothers, Jewish princesses, the list goes on and on. Jews tell you most of this stuff. Many of them laugh at their own culture and such, and aren't offended by other people referencing them in any way. Likewise, Baptists and Catholics and Evangelicals make fun of themselves and critique things all the time. Geesus, I'm so sick of these emotionally weak and fragile fucking people.

I hope Baizuo goes bankrupt. The sooner the better.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on November 01, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
Greetings!

All of these SJW's are cunts. Fuck them. They are humorless, ideological tyrants. Words get used by everyone, around the world. You don't like it? Too fucking bad.

As for Jews, when did phylactery somehow become whatever? It's a Greek word, describing an object. What is there to somehow be offended by? Everyone uses all kinds of words to describe items and objects all the time, using words from different cultures and religions, again, all the damned time. Why is that offensive? Bells, crosses, crucifixes, robes, fez's, turbans, veils, staffs, braziers, whatever. The lists are endless. Someone, somewhere, came up with them, and used them initially to describe some kind of object or item. Fantastic. What does that have anything to do with someone, somewhere, getting offended because that object or name of something is used for the same item or something similar in a fucking game?

Most real Jews I have known tend to have pretty good senses of humour, and seldom have any senses of ridiculous emotional entitlement. Many of the jokes, and humorous asides--and even criticisms!--of Jewish culture comes from JEWS! Jewish money, Jewish mothers, Jewish princesses, the list goes on and on. Jews tell you most of this stuff. Many of them laugh at their own culture and such, and aren't offended by other people referencing them in any way. Likewise, Baptists and Catholics and Evangelicals make fun of themselves and critique things all the time. Geesus, I'm so sick of these emotionally weak and fragile fucking people.

I hope Baizuo goes bankrupt. The sooner the better.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Mel Brooks tells some of the best Jewish jokes.

Nuff said.

Quote from: SHARK on November 01, 2021, 12:25:54 PMAs for Jews, when did phylactery somehow become whatever?

Sorry but I gotta admit: As a Jew, there are some shitty Jews that just wanna complain and get victim points as much as other demographics.

Quote from: sunsteel on October 30, 2021, 12:40:01 PM
It's offensive after almost 50 years now. Paizo is trying to curb the wokies at the gate. Lol!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbook.com/gaming/amp/news/pathfinder-paizo-phylactery-lich-soul-cages/

Oy vey!

Quote from: SHARK on November 01, 2021, 12:25:54 PM

I hope Baizuo goes bankrupt. The sooner the better.

SHARK

Amen to that!

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on November 01, 2021, 11:32:28 AM
Indeed. Who even uses the word "phylactery" outside of a D&D context?

Comes up stories about the golem of Prague.