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Noticeable side-effects of the OGL Debacle

Started by tenbones, January 19, 2023, 07:05:29 PM

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Opaopajr

#60
January 27, 2023, 02:04:40 AM
Quote from: thornad on January 26, 2023, 11:14:31 PM
One noticeable side-effect is that even looking at my 5e books makes me queasy now. I used to really like that edition.

I was in an ongoing 5e campaign with my kids for over 2 years and we all had so much fun. Now I want to either convert it to another system, or just start a new campaign with a different game.

Understandable and lamentable.  :(

But thornad has it right, just like many above: once you have hardcopy (personal data file), you can play with your copy as you please.  :)

I would just add that for me personally everything Hasbro/WotC is dead from January 2023. OK, you fired me as a customer -- and in turn I fire you from my life in toto as a customer. Every retail thing, including my beloved fictional OvenMitts of Vecna, no longer exist in my world. What older products I consume will be in private and if necessary purchased second-hand.

Just think of the ending of Labyrinth, "You have no power over me."  :D Let them fade...
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Steven Mitchell

#61
January 27, 2023, 07:57:34 AM
Quote from: thornad on January 26, 2023, 11:14:31 PM
One noticeable side-effect is that even looking at my 5e books makes me queasy now. I used to really like that edition.

I was in an ongoing 5e campaign with my kids for over 2 years and we all had so much fun. Now I want to either convert it to another system, or just start a new campaign with a different game.

Try something else, and 1 of 2 things is likely to happen:

- You get into the new thing sufficiently that you find you prefer it to what was before.  Great, problem solved.
- Some distance and time away from 5E lets the churn subside, and you can go back to it, maybe in a rotation, using what you've got already in ways that you can now enjoy again.

Either way, don't let screw ups by others now affect happy memories of what came before.  I had a ball with 5E in my campaigns with it earlier.  Fact.  I will not be using it at all in the future, and have already got multiple replacements I prefer.  Also fact.  The second fact doesn't change the first one.

PulpHerb

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January 27, 2023, 11:08:12 AM
Quote from: Daddy Warpig on January 23, 2023, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on January 23, 2023, 08:36:58 AM
Very much this. There's a theory in independent content creation called "1000 true fans" where a content creator can make enough to support themselves (not rich, but paying the bills as their actual job) if they can get a thousand people to buy everything they produce (or these days, pay $1/month on patreon).

Original figure was $100 a year or $10 a month (Net, of course, after taxes).

$1 a month is poverty level. You got more on Social Security (in 2022) and you can't even survive on Social Security.

The numbers change, but the broader concept remains. $15 a month gross is still viable if you keep costs low. $15 * 12 * 1000 = $180,000 gross. If production overhead is 20% or lower that leaves $150,000. In the US lost about 32% of that to taxes (the joys of self-employment tax) and about $30k to health insurance, you're still at $72,000 take home or $6k a month. That's within 10% what a VP at one of the too-big-to-fail banks takes home for salary after taxes and insurance.

However, a lot of people don't talk about all this entails: a strong work ethic with a consistent release cycle of enough creations to justify a $10 monthly gross expenditure

Spinachcat

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January 27, 2023, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on January 27, 2023, 11:08:12 AMyou're still at $72,000 take home or $6k a month. That's within 10% what a VP at one of the too-big-to-fail banks takes home for salary after taxes and insurance.

$6k/mo doesn't pay $1M mortgages which are standard in major cities for the homes owned by anyone in the VP class. As a headhunter 20 years ago, I never placed a VP at less than $175k base with a $300k+ total package, and those were mid-size Fortune 1000 companies. I can't imagine 2023 comps being less than +$100k from previous numbers.

Chris24601

#64
January 27, 2023, 05:19:20 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on January 27, 2023, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on January 27, 2023, 11:08:12 AMyou're still at $72,000 take home or $6k a month. That's within 10% what a VP at one of the too-big-to-fail banks takes home for salary after taxes and insurance.

$6k/mo doesn't pay $1M mortgages which are standard in major cities for the homes owned by anyone in the VP class. As a headhunter 20 years ago, I never placed a VP at less than $175k base with a $300k+ total package, and those were mid-size Fortune 1000 companies. I can't imagine 2023 comps being less than +$100k from previous numbers.
Housing and cost of living is very regional though. A VERY nice house in my part of the country rural Midwest (who wants to live in an overcrowded city?) is maybe a third of that with proportional mortgages. I could live VERY comfortably on $6k a month around here.
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