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Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: RunningLaser on April 12, 2017, 08:39:03 AM
Was just wondering about this the other day.  If you were to exclude D&D and all the clones and offshoot clones of it, what other rpg's have a lot of modules out there for it?
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Madprofessor on April 12, 2017, 08:47:40 AM
MERP

Edit: and they're pretty darn good too... and they have covers by Angus McBride!
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: crkrueger on April 12, 2017, 09:53:41 AM
Yeah MERP.  Not only covers by Angus, but most of the modules have great cartography by Pete Fenlon.

Shadowrun in the 1st/2nd edition had a lot of modules.  The nice thing about them was, they started out having two news clips, one for success and one for failure of the run, so GMs could use those to let the players know what the corps were saying about the effects of the run.  Also, when the runs had chances for major effects, they listed options for followup runs as well as how Shadowrunners could capitalize through buying stock, etc.  Was pretty unique.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Simlasa on April 12, 2017, 11:19:33 AM
Call of Cthulhu has had quite a few over the years.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: ffilz on April 12, 2017, 12:31:16 PM
It's hard to know what's significant here due to the lopsided distribution of game popularity, but I would offer at least:

Traveller has had quite a few modules. With many third party modules.
RuneQuest and Hero Quest with many third party modules (at least in magazines)
Tunnels & Trolls (back in the day, of course most "modules" were solo adventures)
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on April 12, 2017, 03:36:13 PM
Fantasia (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/2353/New-Dimension-Games/subcategory/4409_4459/Fantasia), one of four RPGs by Matt DeMille.
It is one of those games that look and feel like AD&D - Palladium Fantasy, The Arcanum (Review (https://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/12/12068.phtml) and publisher homepage (http://www.newdimensiongames.com/index.html)).
More than 50 adventures and modules appeared between 2000 and today.
It looks like an old school game but the modules have more of a "story" bend - locations don't even have maps.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Omega on April 12, 2017, 04:02:38 PM
Middle Earth RPG as others have mentioned.
Traveler last I knew had quite a few?
Marvel Superheroes had around 20? Some were hybrid sourcebook/modules.
Top Secret I believe had about a dozen? Maybe less.
DC Heroes had several.
Champions had several.
Shadowrun had at least a dozen?
Vampire had a batch, quite a few hybrid sourcebook/modules.
Tunnels & Trolls has as of last check over 20 solos and the whole Citybook series is a combination setting/module.
TFT had a dozen or so solos and one or two modules?
Gamma World over its span has about a dozen modules. Some are incompatible with other versions.
Nights Edge, the supernatural CP2020 setting had 9 or 10 modules.
Call of Cthulhu has at least a dozen. Some are massive!
Runequest had several. I've got 2. Believe there were at least a dozen?
Rifts whole line is essentially a bunch of sourcebook/mini-modules, as was a chunk of TMNT/After the Bomb.
Justifiers had just short of 10 I think. Some were hybrids.

Probably lots more I've forgotten or never heard of, or were more sourcebook than module.

If you add in modules from magazines then the number grows quite a bit!
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Madprofessor on April 12, 2017, 06:54:24 PM
I guess it kind of depends on how broad your definition of "module" is.  I was thinking of classic style adventure modules, but there is lots of campaign modules, and assorted splat-books that could be called a "module."  For example, to me, rift books weren't really modules though they might have contained adventures in them. They were more like setting and rules expansions.  There are a ton of GURPS 3rd ed books, but very few of them were adventure modules.

Almost all TSR RPGs had some modules: Star Frontiers, Conan, Indiana Jones, Top Secret, Boot Hill.

The more I think about it, it seems that modules were more popular/prevalent in the '80s and 90s than they are today - with the exception of Goodman.  I wonder why that is? Adventure modules are probably my favorite form of RPG product: short, condensed, cheap, and to the point of what characters do.  They cut out all the fluff.  You get more directly useful gaming content per page. They often give a bunch of interesting ideas that characters could interact with, but without much background or depth providing GMs with seeds to riff off of.  They were a far cry from today's glossy full-color 400 page setting/splat books that are often of marginal use at the table.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: JeremyR on April 12, 2017, 09:11:31 PM
Shadowrun had something like 30 for SR1/SR2
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Spinachcat on April 12, 2017, 09:40:02 PM
Many of the games which have had Living Campaigns have a treasure trove of free / cheap adventures.
Shadowrun has had at least two such campaigns, Living Seattle and Shadowrun Missions.


Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;956930Fantasia (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/2353/New-Dimension-Games/subcategory/4409_4459/Fantasia), one of four RPGs by Matt DeMille.

Matt's site has LOTS of cool downloads too.

I wrote review for Fantasia in the ancient days.
https://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/12/12068.phtml
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: saskganesh on April 12, 2017, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: Madprofessor;956960The more I think about it, it seems that modules were more popular/prevalent in the '80s and 90s than they are today - with the exception of Goodman.  I wonder why that is? Adventure modules are probably my favorite form of RPG product: short, condensed, cheap, and to the point of what characters do.  They cut out all the fluff.  You get more directly useful gaming content per page. They often give a bunch of interesting ideas that characters could interact with, but without much background or depth providing GMs with seeds to riff off of.  They were a far cry from today's glossy full-color 400 page setting/splat books that are often of marginal use at the table.

Today's big books are probably preferred by publishers and many retailers. Less inventory, better margins. They also serve the needs of the not inconsiderable amount of collectors and readers ... people who don't game much, but have money to spend on hobby product.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: ningauble on April 13, 2017, 01:03:12 AM
Warhammer FRP had a bunch I think k
Pendragon had a few... I don't know if the Great Pendragon Campaign counts as a module but same idea
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Brand55 on April 13, 2017, 01:03:21 AM
Most of the games I know with a lot of adventures have already been mentioned, but Deadlands Reloaded is up there as well once you look at both print and PDF options. Hellfrost has a fair number, too.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Raleel on April 13, 2017, 01:07:30 AM
I feel like champions, with the the current bundle of holding should also be mentioned.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
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Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on April 13, 2017, 03:36:59 AM
Quote from: Madprofessor;956960Adventure modules are probably my favorite form of RPG product: short, condensed, cheap, and to the point of what characters do.  They cut out all the fluff.  You get more directly useful gaming content per page. They often give a bunch of interesting ideas that characters could interact with, but without much background or depth providing GMs with seeds to riff off of.  They were a far cry from today's glossy full-color 400 page setting/splat books that are often of marginal use at the table.

So many times "yes!"
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Voros on April 13, 2017, 03:55:38 AM
CoC of course.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Weru on April 13, 2017, 05:07:44 AM
Savage Worlds has a lot by both PEG and third party publishers.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Larsdangly on April 13, 2017, 11:20:26 AM
Pretty much none of these are within an order of magnitude of the catalogue of OSR modules. One that might be within a factor of 10 is tunnels and trolls, which had quite a few solo dungeons.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Trond on April 13, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Madprofessor;956883MERP

Edit: and they're pretty darn good too... and they have covers by Angus McBride!

Yes!

Also The One Ring is getting pretty extensive-ish
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Madprofessor on April 13, 2017, 01:46:41 PM
Agreed, in fact many of the adventures discussed here aren't really "modules" - not strictly speaking.  For example, I don't know of any SW "modules."  There are lots of SW adventures out there, but they don't use the module format.

MERP, probably had 50-60 modules and competed with TSR for a while on module output.  As you mentioned, T&T had quite a few as well.  Lots of games had some modules.  I can't think of any non-OSR game that is currently producing modules in any quantity - which is too bad.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Madprofessor on April 13, 2017, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: Justin Alexander;95701813th Age (http://site.pelgranepress.com/index.php/13th-age-monthly/) is another one I'm aware of with dozens.


Just looked at these, and shortest is 72 pages.  Most 180 page splatbooks that contain adventures. Maybe I am splitting hairs, but to me, these aren't really modules.

I guess nobody has mentioned Pathfinder.  Not really OSR, but certainly D&Dish so it may not qualify for the OP.  They have what seems like thousands.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: jhkim on April 13, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
Quote from: Madprofessor;957117Agreed, in fact many of the adventures discussed here aren't really "modules" - not strictly speaking.  For example, I don't know of any SW "modules."  There are lots of SW adventures out there, but they don't use the module format.
How do you define the module format, out of curiousity?
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: MidnightBlue on April 13, 2017, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Madprofessor;956960The more I think about it, it seems that modules were more popular/prevalent in the '80s and 90s than they are today - with the exception of Goodman.  I wonder why that is? Adventure modules are probably my favorite form of RPG product: short, condensed, cheap, and to the point of what characters do.  They cut out all the fluff.  You get more directly useful gaming content per page. They often give a bunch of interesting ideas that characters could interact with, but without much background or depth providing GMs with seeds to riff off of.  They were a far cry from today's glossy full-color 400 page setting/splat books that are often of marginal use at the table.


I never really liked running published adventures.  I usually only GMed if I had a story thread/setting working its way out of my head.  It was never a desire to run a game with someone else's story.

Plus, I really like adventures to be tailored to the characters (and players) playing...and not shoehorning the party into an established story.  Sure, you can tailor published adventures (and I do when I run them), but I'd rather build an adventure from the ground up with the party in mind.

That's why I seldom bought modules.  It wasn't until they started making campaign/splat-books, as you say, that I picked some up.  If the book offered more for the system and setting than just someone else's story, then I'd probably buy it.  After all, I just don't see a lot of value, personally speaking, to purchase a module that I'll likely run once (if ever) and never run again because I don't like repeat stories in gaming.

But again, that's just me and my style of gaming.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Weru on April 13, 2017, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: Madprofessor;957117For example, I don't know of any SW "modules."  There are lots of SW adventures out there, but they don't use the module format.

In addition to all the Plot Point Books (which I agree are not like modules) PEG put out 19 Savage Tales which seem close enough to TSR module format and length to me. Not sure how many 3rd Party Savage Tales are out there, but there a fair few of those too.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Omega on April 13, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: Madprofessor;956960I guess it kind of depends on how broad your definition of "module" is.

Hence why I note that I consider some to be hybrids. Theres quite a few straight up modules that I consider to be also setting books or sourcebooks because some have quite a bit of source material in them. And some sourcebooks read more like open ended modules.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Madprofessor on April 13, 2017, 08:40:20 PM
Quote from: jhkim;957120How do you define the module format, out of curiousity?

Well, that's a damn good question.  I can't say that I could give a universal answer without sticking my foot in my mouth.

For me, I would say a module is a short (16-40 page) RPG supplement that is focused on a single adventure.  It may contain some setting info, or some game info like new monsters, spells, treasures, or even rules that may be useful to the GM in other contexts, but these are generally in designed in service of the adventure at hand.  

It could be defined more broadly or more narrowly, but that is what I think of when someone says "module."

In the mid to late '80s, you started to get "Campaign Modules" such as B10 (one of my favorites) or x10 that were more ambitious in scope and meant for multi-session play. I suppose I still consider these to be modules because they're focused on a single, albeit long, adventure.  On the other hand, a book like sundered skies for SW which contains new rules, new setting, chargen, but also contains a plot point campaign would not be the first thing that came to mind from the word "module" even though it contains an (long) adventure.  The WFRP 2e contains an adventure, but I don't think of it as a "module" - it's a rulebook.

I could be totally off here.

What I like about "modules" is they are generally very densely packed with usable table -top info, and though I rarely run them as is, they are full of ideas that can be stolen, converted, changed, riffed off of, etc, and they don't contain general info that gets in the way.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on April 14, 2017, 05:01:33 AM
Quote from: Madprofessor;957175For me, I would say a module is a short (16-40 page) RPG supplement that is focused on a single adventure.
(...)
In the mid to late '80s, you started to get "Campaign Modules" (...) meant for multi-session play.
(...)
What I like about "modules" is they are generally very densely packed with usable table -top info,

But even those early short modules were so dense with locations and stuff that they were effectively multi-session adventures - B2 with its back and forth between the keep and the caves, and X1 with its hexcrawl are just two examples that come to mind immediately.
I don't know how long we played the desert of desolation series, or the Llendore modules.
Title: Other than D&D, OSR & all the clones- what games have a lot of modules?
Post by: RPGPundit on April 20, 2017, 03:28:59 AM
There's a fuckton of games that had a lot of "modules". If you define "modules" as "adventures" and not sourcebooks, I think that without question Call of Cthulhu had the BEST modules.