So I'm from a country where RPG isn't all that big and the only things played are 5e and Pathfinder (to a much lesser extent). Now, the group is dormant (planned) because of summer trips and parenthood, and I thought it would be nice to play an OSR TTRPG for a change. Done a little research and I come to two products, namely OSRIC and Basic Fantasy RPG. Which of these, if you have played any, do you prefer? I'm looking for something that, given my extensive collection of miniatures, is played preferably with miniatures. Or, if you have any other ideas, shoot!
Either 5e or a wargame, keeping in mind your extensive collection of miniatures. Osric and BF require imagination and therefore aren't for you.
Mainly depends how complex you want your game to be. OSRIC is a retro clone of 1e so it's considerably more complex than Basic Fantasy, which as the name suggests is loosely based on B/X.
Then there's the issue of PDF vs. print: the former is free for both but Basic Fantasy does printed copies super cheap (at cost).
Also ignore Dylan, he's just our latest troll. Probably a sock puppet for one who got banned recently, but that's just speculation on my part.
AD&D 1e.
Basic Fantasy, hands down.
Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on July 21, 2022, 12:07:42 PM
Mainly depends how complex you want your game to be. OSRIC is a retro clone of 1e so it's considerably more complex than Basic Fantasy, which as the name suggests is loosely based on B/X.
Then there's the issue of PDF vs. print: the former is free for both but Basic Fantasy does printed copies super cheap (at cost).
Also ignore Dylan, he's just our latest troll. Probably a sock puppet for one who got banned recently, but that's just speculation on my part.
I joined five years ago; you've been here six months.
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on July 21, 2022, 12:07:42 PM
Mainly depends how complex you want your game to be. OSRIC is a retro clone of 1e so it's considerably more complex than Basic Fantasy, which as the name suggests is loosely based on B/X.
Then there's the issue of PDF vs. print: the former is free for both but Basic Fantasy does printed copies super cheap (at cost).
Also ignore Dylan, he's just our latest troll. Probably a sock puppet for one who got banned recently, but that's just speculation on my part.
I joined five years ago; you've been here six months.
Well, then I stand corrected. I was going off your post count; I didn't click through to your profile to check. I'll make sure to do that in the future before slinging accusations of sock-puppetry, so thank you.
Doesn't change the fact that you're behaving like a troll.
It's ok, we all make mistakes.
ACKS
Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on July 21, 2022, 11:25:24 AM
So I'm from a country where RPG isn't all that big and the only things played are 5e and Pathfinder (to a much lesser extent). Now, the group is dormant (planned) because of summer trips and parenthood, and I thought it would be nice to play an OSR TTRPG for a change. Done a little research and I come to two products, namely OSRIC and Basic Fantasy RPG. Which of these, if you have played any, do you prefer? I'm looking for something that, given my extensive collection of miniatures, is played preferably with miniatures. Or, if you have any other ideas, shoot!
I'd say given how you want to use minis 4E would be your best bet. It's much more like a video game style Tactical RPG and has a greater emphasis on minis. Which you'd like. I know of at least one person who combined 4E with Chainmail (DnD's wargame Dad) and it worked out quite well for large scale battles.
Also for a less traditional pick, Five Leagues From the Borderlands is a hybrid skirmish wargame and RPG using minis. That one can be played Solo if you want. It's a very cool game.
Quote from: King Tyranno on July 21, 2022, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on July 21, 2022, 11:25:24 AM
So I'm from a country where RPG isn't all that big and the only things played are 5e and Pathfinder (to a much lesser extent). Now, the group is dormant (planned) because of summer trips and parenthood, and I thought it would be nice to play an OSR TTRPG for a change. Done a little research and I come to two products, namely OSRIC and Basic Fantasy RPG. Which of these, if you have played any, do you prefer? I'm looking for something that, given my extensive collection of miniatures, is played preferably with miniatures. Or, if you have any other ideas, shoot!
I'd say given how you want to use minis 4E would be your best bet. It's much more like a video game style Tactical RPG and has a greater emphasis on minis. Which you'd like. I know of at least one person who combined 4E with Chainmail (DnD's wargame Dad) and it worked out quite well for large scale battles.
Also for a less traditional pick, Five Leagues From the Borderlands is a hybrid skirmish wargame and RPG using minis. That one can be played Solo if you want. It's a very cool game.
That's almost exactly what I said.
Quote from: drayakir on July 21, 2022, 12:49:06 PM
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Agreed. I actually think this fits what it sounds like OP wants better than either OSRIC or Basic Fantasy. Price could potentially be an issue but there's always the SRD:
https://tkurtbond.github.io/ACKS/acks_srd.html
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:54:42 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on July 21, 2022, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on July 21, 2022, 11:25:24 AM
So I'm from a country where RPG isn't all that big and the only things played are 5e and Pathfinder (to a much lesser extent). Now, the group is dormant (planned) because of summer trips and parenthood, and I thought it would be nice to play an OSR TTRPG for a change. Done a little research and I come to two products, namely OSRIC and Basic Fantasy RPG. Which of these, if you have played any, do you prefer? I'm looking for something that, given my extensive collection of miniatures, is played preferably with miniatures. Or, if you have any other ideas, shoot!
I'd say given how you want to use minis 4E would be your best bet. It's much more like a video game style Tactical RPG and has a greater emphasis on minis. Which you'd like. I know of at least one person who combined 4E with Chainmail (DnD's wargame Dad) and it worked out quite well for large scale battles.
Also for a less traditional pick, Five Leagues From the Borderlands is a hybrid skirmish wargame and RPG using minis. That one can be played Solo if you want. It's a very cool game.
That's almost exactly what I said.
Not exactly. I actually made some suggestions. You just bitched to make yourself feel better.
My own OSR neoclone, of course. ;)
I prefer BFRPG, but are you running a B/X or AD&D module? If that is the case, the answer becomes easier.
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
Either 5e or a wargame, keeping in mind your extensive collection of miniatures. Osric and BF require imagination and therefore aren't for you.
I own a bunch of miniatures, and I still like using my imagination. ;)
I'd choose OSCRIC, because I like AD&D.
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
Either 5e or a wargame, keeping in mind your extensive collection of miniatures. Osric and BF require imagination and therefore aren't for you.
Yeah what the fuck man. Stop being an asshole.
I'd play 1e AD&D, so if I were choosing between clones I'd pick OSRIC.
Moldvay (it's right next to me) with a sprinkling of classes from various OSR games.
Quote from: rytrasmi on July 21, 2022, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
Either 5e or a wargame, keeping in mind your extensive collection of miniatures. Osric and BF require imagination and therefore aren't for you.
Yeah what the fuck man. Stop being an asshole.
Why don't you pick on King Tyranno as well? He suggested the same as me. Time to get of the internet and shake some dice, dude.
OSRIC has just enough changes from first edition to infuriate me. If you want a first edition clone then try Joe Bloch's Adventures Dark and Deep.
Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on July 21, 2022, 11:25:24 AM
So I'm from a country where RPG isn't all that big and the only things played are 5e and Pathfinder (to a much lesser extent). Now, the group is dormant (planned) because of summer trips and parenthood, and I thought it would be nice to play an OSR TTRPG for a change. Done a little research and I come to two products, namely OSRIC and Basic Fantasy RPG. Which of these, if you have played any, do you prefer? I'm looking for something that, given my extensive collection of miniatures, is played preferably with miniatures. Or, if you have any other ideas, shoot!
OSRIC gives a nice mid-1980s AD&D experience, Basic Fantasy is early 1980s B/X D&D experience. I like and have run both. OSRIC is a bit more complex, and has more powerful characters. B/X is simpler and more streamlined. Both work fine with minis.
When running swords & sorcery like Wilderlands I prefer OSRIC, in particular the weapon spec rules make powerful warrior PCs even at low level, and quick bloody combat.
For classic dungeon delving, Basic Fantasy is great, and a huge plus is that the books and adventures have print versions sold at-cost.
I think if you are just gaming over the summer, I lean to OSRIC for short term campaigns, because of the powerful starting PCs. Max hp at 1st level is a good idea too. But if you want the classic "running away from 4 orcs" feel, then Basic Fantasy.
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
Either 5e or a wargame, keeping in mind your extensive collection of miniatures. Osric and BF require imagination and therefore aren't for you.
Granted, but I've played TOTM WAY longer than I have played with miniatures.
Quote from: King Tyranno on July 21, 2022, 01:27:30 PM
Quote from: Dylan on July 21, 2022, 12:54:42 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on July 21, 2022, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on July 21, 2022, 11:25:24 AM
So I'm from a country where RPG isn't all that big and the only things played are 5e and Pathfinder (to a much lesser extent). Now, the group is dormant (planned) because of summer trips and parenthood, and I thought it would be nice to play an OSR TTRPG for a change. Done a little research and I come to two products, namely OSRIC and Basic Fantasy RPG. Which of these, if you have played any, do you prefer? I'm looking for something that, given my extensive collection of miniatures, is played preferably with miniatures. Or, if you have any other ideas, shoot!
I'd say given how you want to use minis 4E would be your best bet. It's much more like a video game style Tactical RPG and has a greater emphasis on minis. Which you'd like. I know of at least one person who combined 4E with Chainmail (DnD's wargame Dad) and it worked out quite well for large scale battles.
Also for a less traditional pick, Five Leagues From the Borderlands is a hybrid skirmish wargame and RPG using minis. That one can be played Solo if you want. It's a very cool game.
That's almost exactly what I said.
Not exactly. I actually made some suggestions. You just bitched to make yourself feel better.
Eh, he's entitled to his opinion. Maybe I should not have emphasised on the miniatures collection, that is not at all the most important thing for me, but since they're here, well... I've been "following" D&D since the early nineties (children's books yaay) and "more actively" since the early 2000s so I know quite a lot, I presume, yet, active playing I only started a year or so before the great mainstream spike. And that also includes 4E, which I know is not what I'm looking for ;)