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OSR game jam - pundit, venger, grim need not apply

Started by Thorn Drumheller, May 24, 2022, 09:36:09 PM

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VengerSatanis

#15
May 25, 2022, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 25, 2022, 07:03:18 AM
I wonder does Itch.Io allow slander?

I mean Grim Jim is not a rape apologist that's just an sjw rumor (and was totally taken out of context) And Pundit is not a Nazi. There's a huge difference between saying you'd 'walk beside' Neo Nazis for a free speech rally and actually being one of the cnuts. The enemy of my enemy, etc.  Although I always thought it was a silly thing for him to say.

So does that mean I can join their gaming jam?? I mean, I really want to. I don't think my life would ever be complete if I wasn't able to join the Monkey Genitals or whoever they are's gaming jam.

That's not why they're calling him a nazi.  They called Pundit (and by association me, as well, I'm sure) a nazi because he's center-right and against the radical-left agenda.  Maybe Elon Musk could bankroll Inappropriate Characters so we can do our monthly podcast in space?

VengerSatanis

#16
May 25, 2022, 10:01:49 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 25, 2022, 02:49:43 AM
So if Pundit, Venger and Grim were coming to the game table, who do you want to GM and who would be better as players?

THAT would be a real OSR game jam!

Create a poll, hoss.  Do it!

Rob Necronomicon

#17
May 25, 2022, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 25, 2022, 10:00:15 AM
They called Pundit (and by association me, as well, I'm sure) a nazi because he's center-right and against the radical-left agenda. 

Ruh Roh... That must make me a Nazipoo as well then. Because I'm left-wing but vehemently oppose woke scolds and the extreme left and right. As well as censorship.

I'm going to burn in hell. :(


GhostNinja

#18
May 25, 2022, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: SHARK on May 24, 2022, 11:15:27 PM
Greetings!

These pussies are so "stunning and brave" with their Internet-Inspired bravado.

If the Waffen SS 1st Leibstandarte Panzer Division rolled into their neighborhood locked and ready to rock, these fucking clowns would fallout on the street like hysterical sheep Reeing and begging for mercy.

They are all so pathetic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK


Shark,

Those losers are simply Internet Tough Guys.  The talk shit safely behind their computers and cell phones, but wouldn't have the guts to say it to anyones face.

They are loser snowflakes.
Ghostninja

GeekyBugle

#19
May 25, 2022, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 25, 2022, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: VisionStorm on May 24, 2022, 09:54:37 PM
Erm, I'm not a lawyer, but aren't a least some of these statements technically defamation?

QuoteIf you're the kind of person that the above statement offends, you can fuck off. If you're the kind of person that pals around with wannabe culture vulture white supremacists like RPG Pundit, wannabe satanist christian conservative transphobes like Venger Satanis, rape apologists like GrimJim, or are one of the libertarian dweebs that do free PR for the above, you can also fuck off.

And I'm not sure if the one about Venger qualifies, but it's certainly false and obviously contradictory (Satanist, but Christian?), like these people openly don't give a fuck what the truth is. They just like to declare shit into the ether. Not that this is a revelation for me, but every time I see open brazen falsehood (or "Anti-Truths", like Jordan Peterson calls them) in writing it just grinds my gears.

Being called-out for exclusion literally made my day. 

To be fair, "satanist christian" isn't too far off the mark, but everything else is bullshit. 

VS

Because you don't understand Satanism or Christianism?

That being said you guys should put some presure on itch io.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Mithgarthr

#20
May 25, 2022, 10:38:11 AM
I could be wrong, but wouldn't a "Christian Satanist" be a Satanist who actually believes in/reveres the Satan of the Bible, as opposed to a LaVey-ite Satanist, who is more of an atheist with added pomp and circumstance?

GeekyBugle

#21
May 25, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
Because screenshots aren't proof (can be photoshoped) here's the jam's page archived.

https://archive.is/rWwhT
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

BoxCrayonTales

#22
May 25, 2022, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: Mithgarthr on May 25, 2022, 10:38:11 AM
I could be wrong, but wouldn't a "Christian Satanist" be a Satanist who actually believes in/reveres the Satan of the Bible, as opposed to a LaVey-ite Satanist, who is more of an atheist with added pomp and circumstance?
I guess so? I've only ever seen Christian Satanists in fiction and propaganda.

zircher

#23
May 25, 2022, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 25, 2022, 09:56:23 AM
Being called-out for exclusion literally made my day. 

To be fair, "satanist christian" isn't too far off the mark, but everything else is bullshit. 
The funny thing is that the two ARE related, you can't be either without acknowledging that the other exists as part of the lore.  :-)
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GhostNinja

#24
May 25, 2022, 12:30:56 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 25, 2022, 02:49:43 AM
So if Pundit, Venger and Grim were coming to the game table, who do you want to GM and who would be better as players?

In my opinion non of the above.

Pundit is arrogant and annoying but that might just be the character he plays online.   Venger's stuff I think he does it  because it gets him attention and I have a low opinion of GrimJim.

That said, I certainly wouldn't presume to tell them that they can't design the games they are designing or play the way they are playing.  I just don't think I would enjoy gaming with them.

There are plenty of other people I wouldn't enjoy gaming with  due to the games they play or their game style. 

To each his own.
Ghostninja

Rob Necronomicon

#25
May 25, 2022, 12:35:43 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 25, 2022, 12:30:56 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 25, 2022, 02:49:43 AM
So if Pundit, Venger and Grim were coming to the game table, who do you want to GM and who would be better as players?

In my opinion non of the above.

Pundit is arrogant and annoying but that might just be the character he plays online.   Venger's stuff I think he does it  because it gets him attention and I have a low opinion of GrimJim.

That said, I certainly wouldn't presume to tell them that they can't design the games they are designing or play the way they are playing.  I just don't think I would enjoy gaming with them.

There are plenty of other people I wouldn't enjoy gaming with  due to the games they play or their game style. 

To each his own.

Sure, Venger likes to push buttons and I applaud him for it. But he was doing it way before all the attention. It's just his style.

I've actually played with GJ. He's a great GM.
Why do you have a low opinion of him? He's always been very nice to me and is a genuine dude as far as I'm concerned.



Thorn Drumheller

#26
May 25, 2022, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 25, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
Because screenshots aren't proof (can be photoshoped) here's the jam's page archived.

https://archive.is/rWwhT

Damn, good call, totally forgot about that. They can always try to revise history right?
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GhostNinja

#27
May 25, 2022, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 25, 2022, 12:35:43 PM
Sure, Venger likes to push buttons and I applaud him for it. But he was doing it way before all the attention. It's just his style.

The stuff Venger does seems childish and not anything that I would use.  But again, that's fine.  If people like it then he can keep on keeping on.  Not for me to say he can't make that kind of stuff, I simply wont support him.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 25, 2022, 12:35:43 PM
I've actually played with GJ. He's a great GM.
Why do you have a low opinion of him? He's always been very nice to me and is a genuine dude as far as I'm concerned.

Just things he has said and done make me wonder about him and he just doesn't seem like someone I want to game with.  I don't want to go deeply into it.   He can do his thing,  I will do mine.   All's good
Ghostninja

GhostNinja

#28
May 25, 2022, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on May 25, 2022, 01:48:28 PM
Damn, good call, totally forgot about that. They can always try to revise history right?

Don't suppose legal action against this person/people would be worthwhile would it?  Not sure if they have anything to sue for, but if either Venger or Pundit found out they had money/property/etc perhaps suing them to send a message would be an idea.
Ghostninja

Godsmonkey

#29
May 25, 2022, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 25, 2022, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on May 25, 2022, 01:48:28 PM
Damn, good call, totally forgot about that. They can always try to revise history right?

Don't suppose legal action against this person/people would be worthwhile would it?  Not sure if they have anything to sue for, but if either Venger or Pundit found out they had money/property/etc perhaps suing them to send a message would be an idea.

Sadly, they probably count on the fact they can make baseless attacks without repercussions because litigation isn't cheap.
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