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Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: The Butcher on March 17, 2014, 06:23:31 PM
Maybe it's me but I'd totally run/play a game here. In fact I may already have... ;)

Original DeviantArt page: here (http://eotbeholder.deviantart.com/art/The-Only-Fantasy-World-Map-245738593)

Edit: not linking the image because it's too damn big and I don't know how to resize.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Drohem on March 17, 2014, 06:27:07 PM
Awesome!
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Black Vulmea on March 17, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
(http://www.cliqueduplateau.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Applause.gif)
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Warlord Kro on March 17, 2014, 07:45:26 PM
Nice, but where're the leprechaun lands?
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: LibraryLass on March 17, 2014, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: Warlord Kro;737147Nice, but where're the leprechaun lands?

Probably in among the Poncy Knights.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Lynn on March 17, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Isn't this Golorion? ;-)
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: danbuter on March 17, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Faerun, Golarion, Greyhawk. They all fit!
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: jedimastert on March 17, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
I feel inspired to write a D&D retroclone named "Demons & Decadence" now.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Tahmoh on March 17, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
Gotta love a map that includes evil shangri la :)
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Benoist on March 18, 2014, 01:24:46 AM
This is awesome! Very well done indeed! :D
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Snowman0147 on March 18, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
Quote from: jedimastert;737169I feel inspired to write a D&D retroclone named "Demons & Decadence" now.

Don't forget to put a succubus on the cover with that balor.  Just saying...
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Daddy Warpig on March 19, 2014, 05:34:06 AM
Well, that was cool. Thanks!
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Shipyard Locked on March 19, 2014, 06:26:42 AM
I laughed, but also felt a little bit sad at the predictability of fantasy that makes this funny in the first place.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Black Vulmea on March 19, 2014, 11:07:33 AM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;737432I laughed, but also felt a little bit sad at the predictability of fantasy that makes this funny in the first place.
Because it's better to create a setting that requires the players to read a master's thesis first in order to play the game?

Clichés are exceedingly useful in roleplaying games.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Benoist on March 19, 2014, 02:58:33 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;737468Because it's better to create a setting that requires the players to read a master's thesis first in order to play the game?

Clichés are exceedingly useful in roleplaying games.

Ditto. That picture's funny because it's true, but it's true for a reason that has to do with any given setting's connection with the shared experience of fantasy role playing games (who am I kidding? D&D in particular). For some people this is not a bad thing, and people who want something else can find it in spades in the hobby nowadays.

To me, as a DM, I think that originality of dressing for originality's sake is widely overrated, especially online. Nowadays, I much prefer to use modules and setting elements I can plug into my own creations, rather than convoluted, hyper-specific creations I'll have to kitbash to hell and back in order to use in my campaign.

Fortunately, I feel this is not necessarily an "either/or" type of choice, in the sense that you don't have to do "uber-bland unimaginative Walmart vanilla" OR "sophisticated uber-specialized flavor that need you to sink into it hook, line and sinker in order to be able to enjoy". You can express creativity in any number of ways in archetypal, vanilla settings, and you can facilitate the use of uber-specialized setting elements in other cases (cue Numenera, for instance, which "looks" super-specialized and unique, but really isn't, and can be used in any type of D&D campaign with a portal to other worlds in the dungeon).

TL;DR That map is funny because it's true of many settings, and these settings don't necessarily suck for it.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Daddy Warpig on March 19, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Benoist;737505That map is funny because it's true of many settings, and these settings don't necessarily suck for it.
Fuck yeah!

(Plus, Hyborea. Granddaddy of all these maps. Good enough for Howard, good enough for me. (Not that I did that, the last time I made a D&D world. Always wanted to, though. IMHO, it's cool.))
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: talysman on March 19, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
The map is flawed, though.

No hex overlay.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: jibbajibba on March 20, 2014, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Benoist;737505Ditto. That picture's funny because it's true, but it's true for a reason that has to do with any given setting's connection with the shared experience of fantasy role playing games (who am I kidding? D&D in particular). For some people this is not a bad thing, and people who want something else can find it in spades in the hobby nowadays.

To me, as a DM, I think that originality of dressing for originality's sake is widely overrated, especially online. Nowadays, I much prefer to use modules and setting elements I can plug into my own creations, rather than convoluted, hyper-specific creations I'll have to kitbash to hell and back in order to use in my campaign.

Fortunately, I feel this is not necessarily an "either/or" type of choice, in the sense that you don't have to do "uber-bland unimaginative Walmart vanilla" OR "sophisticated uber-specialized flavor that need you to sink into it hook, line and sinker in order to be able to enjoy". You can express creativity in any number of ways in archetypal, vanilla settings, and you can facilitate the use of uber-specialized setting elements in other cases (cue Numenera, for instance, which "looks" super-specialized and unique, but really isn't, and can be used in any type of D&D campaign with a portal to other worlds in the dungeon).

TL;DR That map is funny because it's true of many settings, and these settings don't necessarily suck for it.

totally true.

A setting that people can quickly grok without having to read your book is generally much more playable.

I only have one caveat which is the GM has to make a choice about the setting. I don't need vast prep , obviously, but I need a 3 minute pitch that tells me what is in and what is out just so I know they have a vision.
To be honest some of the regional titles on the map might actually be sufficient :)
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: The Butcher on March 20, 2014, 01:24:24 AM
I've run games in settings very much like this one, and on more exotic settings as well. Some days you want Barolo or Côtes du Rhône, and some days only an ice-cold glass of Sprite will do.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Shipyard Locked on March 20, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
One day I want to scratch up the courage and ingenuity to pull off a region map similar to this in D&D:

(http://i.imgur.com/kIo0Dtw.png)
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Planet Algol on March 20, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
That map pretty much is my (non space) D&D campaign world.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on March 21, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;737800One day I want to scratch up the courage and ingenuity to pull off a region map similar to this in D&D:

I know exactly what you mean.
In other words: Me too.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Shipyard Locked on March 21, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;737910I know exactly what you mean.
In other words: Me too.

It's funny, many players will readily accept fantasy landscapes and concepts from video games that they would grimace at warily if offered at the tabletop. The rule seems to be you can always go grimdarker, but rarely lighter than Peter Jackson LotR.

I'm sure there's a trick to it, I just need to mull it over more...
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Exploderwizard on March 21, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;737957It's funny, many players will readily accept fantasy landscapes and concepts from video games that they would grimace at warily if offered at the tabletop. The rule seems to be you can always go grimdarker, but rarely lighter than Peter Jackson LotR.

I'm sure there's a trick to it, I just need to mull it over more...

No tricks needed. All you need are players who don't treat the game like serious business.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: YourSwordisMine on March 21, 2014, 02:39:21 PM
Big Crimey Crapsack.

Sounds like Detroit


I must say, I love this map. The area descriptions are just glorious.

I might just run a game here.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: J Arcane on March 21, 2014, 05:32:49 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;737800One day I want to scratch up the courage and ingenuity to pull off a region map similar to this in D&D:

(http://i.imgur.com/kIo0Dtw.png)

...

Dammit, now I need to play more Super Mario Land.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: tenbones on March 21, 2014, 10:20:01 PM
It's awesome as a send-up of the cliche kitchensink world. But as funny as it is - that cliche exists because to do something in the fantasy genre that is more or less original (where that line is and where it's crossed is highly subjective) is pretty rare.

Offhand I can't think of any campaign worlds that I would consider original that have been made full-blown RPG's - Tekumel? Talislanta? Melnibone*?

Most other fantasy RPG's are wholly derivative of history with a few tweaks. Not this is bad - but this map is, to me, in some minor fashion - a spectacular indictment of our hobby's alleged "creativity".

I certainly don't mean this to be argumentative - it's just the first thought that came to my mind after the glow of AWESOME subsided. I felt, like many here, "Wow... this could...be... my old campaign world." Then it wasn't quite as funny, heh. I love it. But now I look at it like a challenge that I'm going to readily accept.

*Does this count since it's a work of literary fiction?
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on March 22, 2014, 12:53:12 AM
If I ever run Dungeon Crawl Classics, I'm gonna print that map out and use it for my setting as-is with no irony.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Dr Magister on March 22, 2014, 12:34:31 PM
Hah!  This is nothing like MY fantasy setting!

Although I do have something a little bit like that.  And that.  And I do have one of those.  And that's pretty much exactly the same name I used for that.  And...

Aww, dammit!
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: RPGPundit on March 26, 2014, 05:25:11 PM
I've seen weirder, anyways.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: The Butcher on March 26, 2014, 06:31:51 PM
I almost want to parcel the map between my favorite posters in this thread and have each write up a piece. Nothing too detailed, just a paragraph or two.

Any interest? Stand and be counted! If enough people want in, I might start a spin-off thread.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Daddy Warpig on March 26, 2014, 06:34:58 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;739053I almost want to parcel the map between my favorite posters in this thread and have each write up a piece. Nothing too detailed, just a paragraph or two.

Any interest? Stand and be counted! If enough people want in, I might start a spin-off thread.
Two paragraphs? I'm in for Ravenholm. (Assuming...)
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: Benoist on March 27, 2014, 01:01:15 AM
Sure. Just tell me which. I'm in.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: LibraryLass on March 27, 2014, 05:41:20 AM
I doubt I'm one of the illustrious favorites, but I'll throw my hat into the ring.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: jibbajibba on March 27, 2014, 08:40:40 AM
The "pocket settings" I did on the design thread easily fall into descriptions on the map.
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: The Butcher on March 27, 2014, 01:55:01 PM
All right, you guys, this is happening. New thread is up. (http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?p=739156)

Quote from: LibraryLass;739107I doubt I'm one of the illustrious favorites, but I'll throw my hat into the ring.

No, you're not, but you might be after your contribution. ;) In your case, though, I wouldn't know what region to assign you. Take your pick!
Title: Only Fantasy World Map You'll Ever Need
Post by: doomedpc on March 27, 2014, 06:19:55 PM
I'm worried that someone is mocking my bucket list...