Quote from: LordVreeg;695251Christmas, are you 2 still at this?  
The English definition is not the same as the compartmentalized, hobby specific definition.  They are not synonymous in our hobby, one is a subset of the other.
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Once again, there was an argument going on in which the two sides were clearly using different definitions, and equally clearly were not aware of it.

Why does my pointing that out piss people off so much? Seriously, dude. Why does that piss you off so much?

Quote from: Benoist;695267How the fuck did this discussion get to talking about 8 feet long penises?

Because a number of the regulars here just aren't interested in talking about gaming. They're much more interested in giant penises.

Quote from: Benoist;695269I disagree with that diagram. Verisimilitude is about apparence of reality, in other words, believability. Now what is believable depends on the context of the game world, and some things may be believable or unbelievable while being realistic or unrealistic. This is something that is only tenuously related to actual positive reality, since it is in fact predicated on our own personal, subjective, perceptions, expectations, and imaginations extrapolating the possible from impossible contexts.

For instance. A Methuselah lifting a building in Vampire the Masquerade is completely unrealistic for a variety of reasons involving physics, biology, etc, but it can be believable (= verisimilar) in the context of the World of Darkness when a combination of supernatural disciplines and magickal laws of the universe are involved (not to mention, a Methuselah piercing the Earth's crust with its fists... but I'm getting side-tracked here).

So verisimilar things are not necessarily realistic. Your Venn diagram doesn't reflect that.

Indeed. The appearance of reality is not actually connected at all with what can actually happen in real life.

That's the disconnect I was pointing out in the first place.

Some people apparently have a real problem understanding (or perhaps accepting) this fact.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;695280All I've been doing is namecalling?

That's all you're doing now.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;695280Perhaps you should go back and reread your response here tomorrow, and hopefully you will see how you're coming off to others.

Apparently, pointing out that two people are arguing past each other because they're using different definitions of the same word, and are unaware of it, comes across in such a way as to piss people off, for reasons beyond human understanding, but apparently based on having a very small penis.

Do you really think I care what retarded children think of me?

Quote from: Ravenswing;695312Yeah, it IS useful to identify those sorts of people here ... the ones who just figure if they keep on shouting "I'm right!  I'm right!  Anyone who disagrees with me is wrongwrongWRONG!" at the top of their lungs, they can just declare victory.  

Maybe I should just establish Ravenswing's Law (in the spirit of Godwin's Law): making penis references in an Internet debate is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.

A number of people have agreed with the point I made. The one shouting "I'm right!  I'm right!  Anyone who disagrees with me is wrongwrongWRONG!" isn't me. I didn't start the namecalling and personal attacks.

Again, why does it piss you off so much that I pointed out that people were using different definitions of the same word and were unaware of it? I really don't understand why that pisses you off so much. What vested personal interest do you have in deliberately fostering misunderstandings? In actively preventing effective communcations?

Is it that your entire sense of self-worth is rooted in feeling superior to other people because you can call them names, or something? How sad.

Quote from: Dog Quixote;695328Maybe a glossary is needed of all these technical terms so that everyone knows how to use them correctly.

Not a bad idea, but put on your fireproof underwear if you try.

Quote from: Dog Quixote;695328Wasn't there another site at one point that didn't something like that?

If there was, it probably got driven out of existence by people who just get pissed off at the thought of people communicating effectively with each other.

Quote from: Ravenswing;695556Oh.  Good point.  Thanks.  Great.  I'll call it Taustin's Law, then.

Any time you talk about me, I win. Because you'll keep talking about me until I allow you to stop. You know it's up to me, and that you'll do what you're told.

@ Taustin -

Right next to the 'quote' button is another button that looks a little like a stack of papers...  Not a realistic stack of papers, mind you, but close enough.  In any case, that is the 'multi-quote' button.  If you click on that button for several posts and then hit 'quote' on the last one or 'reply' you will quote multiple people in a single response.  

This is also helpful if you want to quote the text someone is resonding to.

Example -

I hit the button for each of your posts above, and they're all here.  Now if I wanted to respond to each one (or portions of each one) I could without multiple responses.  

Quote from: taustin;695722Since all you have left is to literally lie about what I said, I'll take that as an admission that you've realized that I'm right, and that you're a useless tit more interested in trolling than discussing games.

Again.

Quote from: taustin;695725Once again, there was an argument going on in which the two sides were clearly using different definitions, and equally clearly were not aware of it.

Why does my pointing that out piss people off so much? Seriously, dude. Why does that piss you off so much?

Quote from: taustin;695726Because a number of the regulars here just aren't interested in talking about gaming. They're much more interested in giant penises.

Quote from: taustin;695729Indeed. The appearance of reality is not actually connected at all with what can actually happen in real life.

That's the disconnect I was pointing out in the first place.

Some people apparently have a real problem understanding (or perhaps accepting) this fact.

Quote from: taustin;695731That's all you're doing now.



Apparently, pointing out that two people are arguing past each other because they're using different definitions of the same word, and are unaware of it, comes across in such a way as to piss people off, for reasons beyond human understanding, but apparently based on having a very small penis.

Do you really think I care what retarded children think of me?

Quote from: taustin;695732A number of people have agreed with the point I made. The one shouting "I'm right!  I'm right!  Anyone who disagrees with me is wrongwrongWRONG!" isn't me. I didn't start the namecalling and personal attacks.

Again, why does it piss you off so much that I pointed out that people were using different definitions of the same word and were unaware of it? I really don't understand why that pisses you off so much. What vested personal interest do you have in deliberately fostering misunderstandings? In actively preventing effective communcations?

Is it that your entire sense of self-worth is rooted in feeling superior to other people because you can call them names, or something? How sad.

Quote from: taustin;695733Not a bad idea, but put on your fireproof underwear if you try.



If there was, it probably got driven out of existence by people who just get pissed off at the thought of people communicating effectively with each other.

Quote from: taustin;695736Any time you talk about me, I win. Because you'll keep talking about me until I allow you to stop. You know it's up to me, and that you'll do what you're told.

Quote from: taustin;695731Do you really think I care what retarded children think of me?

There's the door dude.  Seriously.  If all you're going to do is bitch about how much you hate people here, leave.  Clearly, even after a couple days, you looked back at your post like I asked and came away with the impression that I'm the one calling you names, rather than looked at how you're coming off to everyone else.  There is no reason why anyone would make the effort to try to have an honest conversation with you, and you clearly don't like the reaction you're getting from anyone else.

So leave.  Spare yourself the increased blood pressure.  I don't hang around sites that I hate, so why are you?  And before you say something along the lines of "occassionally there is good info", show me one interaction where you had a good conversation with people?  Because they are all like this.

Quote from: taustin;695736Any time you talk about me, I win. Because you'll keep talking about me until I allow you to stop. You know it's up to me, and that you'll do what you're told.

Actually it's up to us.

Let's try talking to each other about the thread subject shall we?

and no, i'm not interested in "he said, she said."

Quote from: Sacrosanct;695740There's the door dude.  Seriously.  If all you're going to do is bitch about how much you hate people here, leave.  Clearly, even after a couple days, you looked back at your post like I asked and came away with the impression that I'm the one calling you names, rather than looked at how you're coming off to everyone else.  There is no reason why anyone would make the effort to try to have an honest conversation with you, and you clearly don't like the reaction you're getting from anyone else.

So leave.  Spare yourself the increased blood pressure.  I don't hang around sites that I hate, so why are you?  And before you say something along the lines of "occassionally there is good info", show me one interaction where you had a good conversation with people?  Because they are all like this.

Dude, I'm not the one pissed off. In fact, I'm quite amused by the dancing monkeys. You appear to be getting more and more angry. Perhaps you should leave. Only a suggestion, mind you. If you just can't handle seeing posts that disagree with you, and dismiss you as a loser, you could also set me to ignore, so that you won't see my posts at all. Again, only a suggestion. Because, you see, like you I don't own this web site, so, you know, I don't get to order people to leave. Neither, of course, do you.

So take a chill pill, dude, and act your age. Unless, of course, you already are, in which case, take a chill pill, dude, and grow the fuck up.

Quote from: One Horse Town;695750Actually it's up to us.

And yet, you replied.

Quote from: taustin;695763And yet, you replied.

and now, we're done talking about you, just like i said.

Closed. You all know who to blame.

Quote from: taustin;695763And yet, you replied.

How about I make it a touch clearer: derail another thread like this, and you're gone.

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