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Old-school Rocks, Retro-clones Suck

Started by RPGPundit, January 30, 2009, 09:59:48 AM

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arminius

Pulled them from D&D 2e and DQ 3e.

SPI published a pocket wargame using "historical" demons, called, um, Demons. I liked the art and map but game play seemed underdeveloped. Would like to try it again sometime with the right people.

Pseudoephedrine

Pseudomonarchia and the Lemegeton / Lesser Key are both widely available for free online. Here's a website with both and more:

http://www.esotericarchives.com/esoteric.htm
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Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;282285Pseudomonarchia and the Lemegeton / Lesser Key are both widely available for free online. Here's a website with both and more:

http://www.esotericarchives.com/esoteric.htm

That's an excellent link!
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Quote from: RPGPundit;281177Ok, there's my ranting for the day. Discuss.

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My game's more popular than your game.  :)

Also, neener neener neener.
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Quote from: P&P;282499My game's more popular than your game.  :)
Damn. :D
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Quote from: P&P;282499My game's more popular than your game.  :)

Also, neener neener neener.

Sorry, and that game would be?

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Can I just say that as a GAMER...old school and otherwise.  That this is the most ridiculous thread I have seen in quite some time. Been playing for 27 years.  Guys...who CARES what version of the game you play? Do you and your friends enjoy playing it? Then that's good enough for me! What is the beef with guys making retro-clones? I love the movement...I think it's fun. It allows for a very low competition, creative outlet for many people who just enjoy sharing their ideas and works with others. Retro-clones provide a legal framework for this.

Having something currently in print is a hell of a lot easier than trying to win it on ebay . . . and I DON'T like stuff printed from my printer. So Lulu is the perfect place for this kind of marginal market share material. No one in the old-school renaissance has any illusions about this somehow catching up with WOTC's D&D or overtaking any other mainstream game. But some of us, just some of us, are tired of the consumerism involved with our gaming and just want it to be fun and something we feel like we can contribute to.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;282708Sorry, and that game would be?

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Quote from: RPGPundit;282708Sorry, and that game would be?

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C'mon guys...can't we all get along? Aww fuck it, I'm just going to go back downstairs and play some more Jenga...I've got the initiative on that fugly bar hostess and gorram, but she's gonna turn over the treasure or topple that tower before the night is through.

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Quote from: mwhite212;282735Can I just say that as a GAMER...old school and otherwise.  That this is the most ridiculous thread I have seen in quite some time. Been playing for 27 years.  Guys...who CARES what version of the game you play? Do you and your friends enjoy playing it? Then that's good enough for me! What is the beef with guys making retro-clones? I love the movement...I think it's fun. It allows for a very low competition, creative outlet for many people who just enjoy sharing their ideas and works with others. Retro-clones provide a legal framework for this.

Having something currently in print is a hell of a lot easier than trying to win it on ebay . . . and I DON'T like stuff printed from my printer. So Lulu is the perfect place for this kind of marginal market share material. No one in the old-school renaissance has any illusions about this somehow catching up with WOTC's D&D or overtaking any other mainstream game. But some of us, just some of us, are tired of the consumerism involved with our gaming and just want it to be fun and something we feel like we can contribute to.

Mike

Very well put Mike.
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Quote from: RPGPundit;282708Sorry, and that game would be?

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Mythmere

Quote from: Pierce Inverarity;282774Actually, it's Labyrinth Lord.

No, that's Dan Proctor, whose retro-clone game is selling in brick and mortar stores as well as the internet.:)