Now THIS is a map

RPGPundit · December 28, 2007, 04:38:38 PM

Quote from: joewolzWhere did the file come from?

That is an awesome gift.

Um, it was a jpeg of the Pendragon map (the map being the one that's in the book): I don't remember where the JPeg came from, possibly the Pendragon page or Stafford's page, or maybe someone sent it to me.

I'm just guessing that the cost of framing the fucker would vastly exceed the cost of the map itself. But I kind of like Settembrini's suggestion about plywood and paste. I'll think about that.

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Settembrini · December 28, 2007, 05:21:13 PM

Just be sure you can live with possible tears-if the paper gets too wet, it can tear.
But it also should tear in a way you can realign it to be basically invisible.

I´d suggest you try this with something disposable, like an FR map.
That way you´ll see the merits and dangers of this technique.

Or you get yourselves someone who´s a fiend with wallpaper, he might just need two minutes to slap it on.

droog · December 28, 2007, 06:01:17 PM

The trouble with the plywood technique is that it's fucking heavy and awkward at that size, especially if you move every so often. Also, you'll want good quality ply or chipboard, and that's not cheap around here (dunno about Uruguay). Finally, it's permanent.

I'd go a simple frame for something that large. Back it with acid-free card and it should last for decades. Maybe perspex instead of glass, if the framers can do it. You can always rip it out and do something else if you change your mind.

Anemone · December 28, 2007, 06:17:50 PM

Pearls before swines... It's a glorious map, John.

Ian Absentia · December 28, 2007, 08:45:25 PM

Foamcore is your friend, though it can make the map a little fragile.

Bill's suggestion of dowels isn't half bad, either. Check into a framing shop -- sometimes you can find dowels that are made specifically for hanging posters. They basically clamp over either end, reinforcing the top for hanging and weighting the bottom so it hangs smoothly. My wife has a couple that she uses for hanging posters at exhibitions. Toward this end, the notion of printing it on fabric might be a good one.

!i!

dar · December 28, 2007, 10:39:16 PM

Well there is these plastic strips. I think you just mount them then slide the top edge of the poster through it. It holds onto that top edge. I think you should be able to nail/screw the plastic strip in without to much trouble. Maybe even do a bottom edge to help support the weight...

Not that I've done this, just trying to help with what little google fu I poses.

edit: If'n I was you, I'd frame it.

RPGPundit · December 28, 2007, 11:23:31 PM

That's cool, but I'm not sure where the hell I'd get something like that here.

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Settembrini · December 29, 2007, 01:09:05 AM

Oh, they have their problems too!

If there´s any wind, even from sternly walking by, this can damage a map thusly emplaced.

JongWK · December 29, 2007, 09:31:45 AM

Quote from: RPGPunditUm, it was a jpeg of the Pendragon map (the map being the one that's in the book): I don't remember where the JPeg came from, possibly the Pendragon page or Stafford's page, or maybe someone sent it to me.

It's from the Pendragon website. The file is 5.67 megabytes.

Melan · December 29, 2007, 04:26:38 PM

Now that's impressive. Maybe a bit clumsy to use except as a wall hanging, but damn is it great.

Myself, I got a new tie, socks and a chockolate cigar, those kind of things.

Benoist · December 29, 2007, 04:38:37 PM

This Pendragon map is fucking brilliant!

In the same style, for 12th-century England, the map included in Lionheart, the systemless RPG sourcebook, was quite good as well.

pspahn · December 29, 2007, 08:35:44 PM

Quote from: SettembriniPundit,
go to the home improvement store. Have the exact measurements ready.
Let them cut a plywood board to the size. Keep in mind that you will need some extra space for the hooks.
Then, put wallpaper paste on the plywood board. Distribute it very evenly. Put the map on the board, a second person should lend a hand. You have several minutes were you can adjust mistakes, and realign until satisfied.
Use drill with wall, wall plug with hole: Tada!
Hang it up just minutes after applying the wallpaper paste, that way gravity will flatten most irregularities.
Your map will now be basically indestructible.

Particle board is much cheaper and just as sturdy (just keep it out of the elements. Cut the board about 1" longer than the map all the way around to then place the map dead center so you have a border. Then you can use the "empty" border space to drill/nail/whatever. You could also paint the border black before applying the map, which would frame it out nicely.

The map is awesome.

Pete

EDIT: You might even consider having it laminated. I would, to protect it from incidental tears or spills.

RPGPundit · December 30, 2007, 01:22:55 AM

Quote from: pspahnEDIT: You might even consider having it laminated. I would, to protect it from incidental tears or spills.

The problem is we can't actually find a laminating machine in Uruguay that's big enough to laminate this map.

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Settembrini · December 30, 2007, 04:16:26 AM

@pspahn: I don´t know the difference between plywood and particle board.

I was talking about that kind of stuff:

Would that be plywood or particle board in english?

For a large map, you might take something around 4mm strong, birchwood is okay for that, and doesn´t bend so much.

James J Skach · December 30, 2007, 10:18:57 AM

That's plywood, Sett. (at least from the picture it appears to be so). See the layers of wood? Each of those is a "ply."

and it looks like cabinet grade stuff - little-to-no voids which makes it very good for cabinet making.

In general, particle board, depending on what Pete means, is generally heavier than plywood. That's because there's more glue in particle board than plywood.

But I might be misunderstanding, because Pete says to keep particle board out of the elements - and I've been under the impression that particle board is great for outdoor use because it's so stable and takes paint well (often used for signs as a result).

Sorry for the digression....