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Now they are coming for your old rulebooks

Started by Melan, June 29, 2020, 05:01:25 PM

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RandyB

#570
July 28, 2020, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker;1142098Then they tried to come for my books, and I shot them all and buried them under my flowerbeds and vegetable gardens.

See how nicely the flowers are growing this year?

You forgot the third 'S' - shut up about it. :D

HappyDaze

#571
July 28, 2020, 08:35:24 AM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1142097At first they came for modern books but I didn't care because I didn't use modern books.
Then they came for old book PDFs but I didn't care because I didn't use their PDFs.
Then they-

We really need to do this again?

I still do not accept that they will be able to take/alter what's already in your possession unless you let them do so. You may not be able to (legally) acquire an unaltered replacement electronic product, but secondhand/used physical copies are beyond their reach unless their owner allows otherwise (and that's a choice).

Brad

#572
July 28, 2020, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1142103I still do not accept that they will be able to take/alter what's already in your possession unless you let them do so. You may not be able to (legally) acquire an unaltered replacement electronic product, but secondhand/used physical copies are beyond their reach unless their owner allows otherwise (and that's a choice).

Yes, exactly. Never in the history of time has any entity ever burned any books.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

HappyDaze

#573
July 28, 2020, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: Brad;1142117Yes, exactly. Never in the history of time has any entity ever burned any books.

Godwin much?

Brad

#574
July 28, 2020, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1142121Godwin much?

https://youtu.be/E8Alsz_bkeA?t=18
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

HappyDaze

#575
July 28, 2020, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: Brad;1142126https://youtu.be/E8Alsz_bkeA?t=18

What's that? Oh... Yep. More fiction.

Ratman_tf

#576
July 28, 2020, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1142103I still do not accept that they will be able to take/alter what's already in your possession unless you let them do so. You may not be able to (legally) acquire an unaltered replacement electronic product, but secondhand/used physical copies are beyond their reach unless their owner allows otherwise (and that's a choice).

What you accept is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Companies are openly pledging support of racist Social Justicie initiatives. White Fragility is becoming required reading for employees. A single woke podcast got huge concessions from WOTC over some dubious claims of racism.
I'm not going to give them any ideas, but I imagine the next steps are to attack then second hand collector's market.
These nuts spend all day thinking of ways to enforce and promulgate their ideology.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Brad

#577
July 28, 2020, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1142135What's that? Oh... Yep. More fiction.

What an exceptional reply. I appreciate it!
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Mr_X

#578
July 28, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
Strategically, we should be demanding the unexpurgated PDFs be kept available, at very least.  Do the Carcosa split, we can keep gaming and they can have their pablum.  

(greyhawkgrognard has been talking about this on his blog, making good points. )

SavageSchemer

#579
July 28, 2020, 09:29:18 PM Last Edit: July 28, 2020, 09:37:35 PM by SavageSchemer
All I know is this Lo Pan character comes outta thin air...

Edit: I'm sure they'd literally come for your old D&D books if they could. But I think we're a ways off from that yet. They've got to get the guns first.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
From "Play worlds, not rules"

Brad

#580
July 28, 2020, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: SavageSchemer;1142189All I know is this Lo Pan character comes outta thin air...

Edit: I'm sure they'd literally come for your old D&D books if they could. But I think we're a ways off from that yet. They've got to get the guns first.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1142121Godwin much?

Lo Pan appeared on the street?
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Omega

#581
July 28, 2020, 11:46:10 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1142121Godwin much?

1950s all the way to the 2000s America much?

The Satanic Panic much?

Everywhere else much?

Spinachcat

#582
July 29, 2020, 12:02:44 AM
Cancel culture will get worse, not better. They don't need to take your books. They just need you to fear for your job if you ever talk about those Nazi heirlooms you got stashed in the cellar. Your goodthink grandkids will burn the books when you're dead.

As social media and employers becomes more invasive, and the economy gets worse under wokeness, you won't even want to think about those naughty books anymore because that job watching you is what puts food in your mouth.

In the coming years, the only people safe from cancel culture will be those living in the reddest red states whose jobs don't depend on anything the SJWs can touch. And that's not going to be many people.

Shasarak

#583
July 29, 2020, 12:23:12 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1142211Cancel culture will get worse, not better. They don't need to take your books. They just need you to fear for your job if you ever talk about those Nazi heirlooms you got stashed in the cellar.

Back to the good old days.

Now I feel nostalgic about having to hide my hobby from the Normies.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Reckall

#584
July 29, 2020, 04:40:05 AM
Quote from: Brad;1142145What an exceptional reply. I appreciate it!

Except that Big Trouble in Little China is not fiction ;)
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.
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