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No More D&D Books? I was Right!

Started by RPGPundit, June 28, 2023, 11:17:11 PM

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#30
July 03, 2023, 06:19:20 PM
I think it's very likely that the production of new adventure books (like all the ones we've been seeing lately) will cease.

The three core books will stay in print, I'd be very surprised if they weren't. But the rest would be digital; though they may do one or two very special collector edition products, either reprints of old books, or some kind of special homage product, almost certainly huge on nostalgia and collectability.  Remember, Book Publishing is NOT in the list of four prioties for WotC, but MERCHANDISING is, and collectible special books might count as merchandising.
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#31
July 04, 2023, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 03, 2023, 07:59:13 AM
I think WOTC will continue to publish hardcover books more frequently than people seem to believe. They will always keep the three core books in print,

PHB is at least into it's 19th print run. One of my players has one and I checked it last week as am always curious how far along they are in print runs.

Omega

#32
July 04, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
They pretty much need the books on shelves and short of them just up and cutting off printing, they are unlikely to close down physical books. Players just like them too much.

Also they are already bleeding players on Beyond.

This is a matter of wotc's left hand not knowing what its right foot is doing while telling its left eye it cant see and so needs glasses.

Exploderwizard

#33
July 04, 2023, 08:46:01 PM
We have seen this before with other companies. Going in a new direction and abandoning their loyal fan base and customers. To find out if this is the same dance we just need to look at how deeply Hasbro is involved with Blackrock and State Street.
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#34
July 05, 2023, 07:26:34 PM
Quote from: Omega on July 04, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
They pretty much need the books on shelves and short of them just up and cutting off printing, they are unlikely to close down physical books. Players just like them too much.

And what the players like is something that concerns Wizard of the Woke?
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#35
July 07, 2023, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on July 05, 2023, 07:26:34 PM
Quote from: Omega on July 04, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
They pretty much need the books on shelves and short of them just up and cutting off printing, they are unlikely to close down physical books. Players just like them too much.

And what the players like is something that concerns Wizard of the Woke?

Sales. The core books are probably by now in their 30th print at this point. One of our DMs PHB from a few years ago was 19th print.
 
Sire wotc could do the stupid and cut off books sales. But there is so far no indicator they plan to do that.

Scooter

#36
October 16, 2023, 11:26:41 AM
They will print the core books.  No PDFs of anything.  All other content being walled off in subscription format
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Ghostmaker

#37
October 16, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
I look forward to not paying for anything WotC produces.

Scooter

#38
October 16, 2023, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 16, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
I look forward to not paying for anything WotC produces.

:D
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Chris24601

#39
October 16, 2023, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 16, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
I look forward to not paying for anything WotC produces.
I've been living that dream since 2012.  ;D

Scooter

#40
October 16, 2023, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on October 16, 2023, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 16, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
I look forward to not paying for anything WotC produces.
I've been living that dream since 2012.  ;D

Me 2005. 
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DataDwarf

#41
October 17, 2023, 10:40:49 AM
I can see Hasbro continuing with printing books, but only for the "collector market", much like they have with their toy lines. No longer actually meant for kids to play with, but for a whale to show off on their shelf and speculate on.

Scooter

#42
October 17, 2023, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: DataDwarf on October 17, 2023, 10:40:49 AM
I can see Hasbro continuing with printing books, but only for the "collector market", much like they have with their toy lines. No longer actually meant for kids to play with, but for a whale to show off on their shelf and speculate on.

1st printing faux leather and everything. 
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RPGPundit

#43
October 18, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: DataDwarf on October 17, 2023, 10:40:49 AM
I can see Hasbro continuing with printing books, but only for the "collector market", much like they have with their toy lines. No longer actually meant for kids to play with, but for a whale to show off on their shelf and speculate on.

Deluxe limited-edition D&D books or box sets being sold as collectors items would fit with the "merchandising" section of their four profit plans (video games, vtt, movies/tv, merchandising), so yes, we can perhaps expect that.
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#44
October 18, 2023, 08:44:35 AM
I think the suggestion by some is interesting: that WOTC will concentrate themselves on digital products, both MtG and D&D, and then license out to companies the physical product line for D&D books and perhaps even MtG cards; WOTC already has done this regularly with the video game niche. This is similar to what Games Workshop has done with their roleplaying games—let someone else take the risks and pay the overhead of creating and publishing the physical books, while they just collect a stream of pure revenue.  To me, if you start from the premise that Hasbro's management have electronic media backgrounds, and believe all the money is in VTT and micro transactions, this makes a lot of sense.
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