Quote from: BrantaiThat still makes two out of three groups who don't want to be associated with your crusade.

Wrong, that makes two out of three groups that are intimately involved in it, one way or another.

Quote from: Abyssal MawWrong, that makes two out of three groups that are intimately involved in it, one way or another.

Fun Fact: This is bullshit.

OFFICIALLY:

Dr Rotwang! wouldn't give a rat's ass about the 'crusade', even if he had rats' asses lying around free for the taking.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!OFFICIALLY:

Dr Rotwang! wouldn't give a rat's ass about the 'crusade', even if he had rats' asses lying around free for the taking.

Yet another failing of me not being able to kidnap you for GenCon: I was going to bring you a fresh supply of Rats Asses. I mean, I know you don't use them, but I'm sure you don't waste them and give them to people who can/will use them...hell, you could have a garage sale!

Quote from: MelanHow about this parable?

Have shabbily-dressed nutbags ranting and raving on the street corner about inane conspiracy theories revolving around jews, the New World Order and the Trilateral Commission (or whatever) cost banking chains customers? Yes, of course, but it is a good thing these same banking chains don't possess the power to remove the same nutbags. Where they do, people learn soon enough that such means come with less than pleasant side-effects...

Yes, but Jdrakeh is not "on a streetcorner":  what you're saying would be the equivalent of Jdrakeh posting against me on his own website and me somehow trying to shut that website down. I'd agree that'd not be a good thing.

Possibly, it might include the question of Jdrakeh posting on his own website and me trying to ban him here for stuff he wrote there; I'd agree that this would also not be a good thing.

But this, what's happening over here in the real world, is Jdrakeh writing on THIS website; the shabbily-dressed nutbag isn't on the streetcorner, he's in the Bank's lobby, and the bank has every right to kick him out if he starts trying to intentionally scare away the other patrons.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditNo, there's a group that is in open agreement with me, a group that is in open conflict and seeking to oppose me, and a considerable majority of this site that really don't give a fuck about the whole Swine War.

Dude, you're attacked almost daily for your views and you can't spit without hitting a thread about how you're bad for the site.

Seanchai

Quote from: SeanchaiDude, you're attacked almost daily for your views and you can't spit without hitting a thread about how you're bad for the site.

Seanchai

Just like I'm regularly praised, and you can't spit without hitting a thread about how much the Forgies suck ass.

The fact is that the majority of posters here don't give a fuck about either view, though I'd say the VAST majority of posters here are thankful to me for having made this site what it is today, despite that whole "swine wars" thing they don't give a fuck about.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditJust like I'm regularly praised<<

Where? Seriously, where?

Quote from: RPGPunditThe fact is that the majority of posters here don't give a fuck about either view, though I'd say the VAST majority of posters here are thankful to me for having made this site what it is today, despite that whole "swine wars" thing they don't give a fuck about.

When you say posters, do you mean people who post things regularly or people who have accounts? The majority certainly is silent, for example, but outside that...

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai

Quote from: RPGPunditJust like I'm regularly praised<<

Where? Seriously, where?

Check the first post of this thread, for one example.

Besides that, countless other people, including those who have roundly criticized me for focusing so much on the Swine, have still expressed their thanks to me for making this site what it is and for my stalwart focus on Free Speech as one of the key Landmarks of this site.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditBut this, what's happening over here in the real world, is Jdrakeh writing on THIS website; the shabbily-dressed nutbag isn't on the streetcorner, he's in the Bank's lobby, and the bank has every right to kick him out if he starts trying to intentionally scare away the other patrons.

RPGPundit

This would only be the case if this site was so fragile and its members so passive that a single jackass saying "go away" would endanger it.  I think that this is clearly not the case, Pundit.  In fact, we have seen in this very thread that one guy goes off on the site in an apparent attempt to discourage a newbie only to have several other posters, including the newbie himself, call him on his shit.  Where exactly is the problem here?

Sometimes I think that you are not confident enough in the strength of the user base here to filter out the things that will naturally come from the free speech stance of the moderation of this site and make their own choices, and we need to be "protected".  Fuck that.

This applies equally to the bullshit thread about Serious Paul currently going on in the Help Desk forum.  We don't need to ban people for annoying behavior or nebulously trying "to hurt the site".  By that standard we would all be screwed.


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