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newbie - thanks RPGPundit!

Started by architect.zero, July 27, 2007, 11:55:48 PM

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architect.zero

Been playing since '82.  Revised D&D to start and then on to Marvel Basic and Advanced.  From there to... just about everything.

I read rpg.net daily (forums and reviews) and I have since '99.  I almost never post anything though, I just don't know what to say anymore.  Place has been overrun by forge-ries and I'm done with the Exalted worship.  ENWorld is a one trick pony I just can't stomach and I stopped going there years ago.

Today I stumbled across a thread at rpg.net re: "Forward... to Adventure!" which led to RPGPundit's blog, and thus to "venisonocracy" (re: Blue Rose) and then to "swine".  I've finally found _the_ place where my kind of gamer has flocked.

I haven't actualy played an RPG since d20 CoC in 2004.  This gives me hope that the swine haven't taken over the world and that one day, maybe, I'll play something besides a board game (though I won't stop playing boardgames, as I loves me some Puerto Rico and Game of Thrones).

Thanks RPGPundit.

jdrakeh

Quote from: architect.zeroI've finally found _the_ place where my kind of gamer has flocked.

I think you may be disappointed. Many posters here (indeed, I think the majority) vehemently disagree with Pundit's views. I, for example, post here in spite of Pundit, not because of him (though to be fair, he also makes some good points in between the conspiracy theory screeds). If I were you, I'd try the general discussion forums at Dragonsfoot (or the sub-forums for game-specific elitism).
 

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Well, glad to have ya aboard, even if you find that this place is full of many dissenting opinions.
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Welcome to theRPGsite, architect.zero!  I'm sorry to hear that you're bringing such negative feelings with you, but I hope you enjoy it here.

Why haven't you played an RPG in three years?  I'm not aware of anywhere in the world where small games like Blue Rose and small press games dominate the local area such that folk can't start a D&D game...
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Don't pay attention to jdrakeh.  This IS a place where everyone can speak their mind, so if you're looking for a place that's absolutely free of Forgies and such this wouldn't be it.  But if you're looking for a place that isn't run by a bunch of Forgies or Exalted-worshippers, this is the place.  Here, you get an even ground to dish out the arguments, without the risk that a clique of like-minded pseudo-intellectuals or fashionistas will ban you for daring to say their games are crap.

There are a group of people here who are very concerned with opposing the Swine, then there are a number of Swine who are mostly here to try to oppose me and attack everything I do as much as possible, abusing of the freedom this site allows them (ironic, given that the sites run by their fellow travellers certainly would never allow non-believers to say the sort of things about the admins that they say about me here).
Then there's the vast majority of posters here, who aren't interested in either of these things and are mostly interested in talking about mainstream RPGs, old-school games, and Regular Roleplaying.

If you liked my blog, and you're not afraid of free and healthy debate, this is just the place for you.

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Quote from: architect.zeroI've finally found _the_ place where my kind of gamer has flocked.

Yeah. I guess, you will find the last refugees. Under attack as you can see. :p

Quote from: architect.zeroThis gives me hope that the swine haven't taken over the world and that one day, maybe, I'll play something besides a board game (though I won't stop playing boardgames, as I loves me some Puerto Rico and Game of Thrones).

They haven't. They have just taken over some promiment RPG sites and message boards. I wish you well with searching for a gaming group. D&D should be the most easiest way to find players.

BTW: AGOT board game is great (despite, I tried it just once...). Good to see you here nad wellcome.
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You know, architect.zero, I welcome you to discuss whatever the hell you feel like, which is what I seem to be able to do with no hassles.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think that Pundit's "Swine!" thing is...well...Pundit's "Swine!" thing.  And he's right when he says this board is more about discussion of stuff in general than it is about his battle or crusade or whatever it is.  

Myself, I like a lot of different games, and my tastes center around more traditional stuff.  I've looked a some of the "Forge" style games and they look neat but not fun, so...strokes/folks.  Here, I can talk about that stuff and not get ignored a whole lot.  So...bonus!
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Quote from: RPGPunditThen there's the vast majority of posters here, who aren't interested in either of these things and are mostly interested in talking about mainstream RPGs, old-school games, and Regular Roleplaying.

Finally!  I'm in the "vast majority!" :)

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Hi new guy, welcome to theRPGsite.

My question for you, is have you thought about whether or not you still really want to be playing? It's been 3 years, after all. If so, I have a couple of resources for you. If not.. uhh.. I have no idea what to say to you.
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Hey the swinery you see on the boards is just that on th boards. Hit your local games stores, College campuses, or what not. Theirs lots of people playing every thing. You'll find a group to play with. Then let the good times roll!:D
On a serious note my group I've played with since junior high. (I'm 31 to let you know how long ago that was.) Has got smaller and we just cant get together like we used to. Kids, work, all the normal real life bullshit. But I was fiending for roleplaying. So I started going to the local comic shop where I knew their was playing going on. I joined the group up there. Had a lot of fun. Then I started running a game up there. Unfortunatly the store closed. (Basically the owner got out before he was in massive debt, with his marriage still intact.) But even this provided an opportunity. I now have merged the best folks from the shop, with the best of my old group. Effectively forming dare I say a new super group. Plus one of the game that was run by friend of mine up at the old shop. Still survives at another location. The bounty of roleplaying available to me now is immense. Point of my rambling story is. You gotta go out and find it. A scary proposition (truth be told) but hugely rewarding in the long run.
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jdrakeh

Quote from: RPGPundit. . . who are mostly here to try to oppose me and attack everything I do as much as possible, abusing of the freedom this site allows them (ironic, given that the sites run by their fellow travellers certainly would never allow non-believers to say the sort of things about the admins that they say about me here).

Where do I start. . . with the patent falsehoods or with the savage hypocrisy? :rolleyes:

First, as much as I dislike the Forge, I have never been shut down on those forums for saying nasty things about Ron. He has expressed his displeasure with what I've said, but that would make him no different than you. If you're going to attack another forum, do so based on actual, real, flaws -- not imagined conspiracies.

Second, how is refuting your utter bullshit claims about Swine -- you know the ones that you seem incapable of supporting with actual printed words -- abusing your free speech policy? You get to make up whatever you like and tout it as fact, but anybody who questions you is abusing your generosity? What the fuck ever.
 

architect.zero

Just a blanket reply:

a) On "swine".
I believe in live and let live.   Play the games you want, make the games you want, etc... but I'm tired of hearing about the "deeper meaning" of RPGs, GNS, the "genius" of such and such designer (cults of personality bug me), etc... .  Can there be discussion about RPGs, and gaming in general, without that?  Something simpler... I dunno.

b) On "3 years without gaming"
I had to recalculate, it's actually been 2.  I ran 2 sessions d20 Modern in the fall of '05.  It didn't last long because of work... in the immortal words of Kim Jong Il, ""Do you have any idea how fucking busy I am?"

Some people will say that I'm just not dedicated enough.  Perhaps.  What they don't know is that when the company I'm working for goes public (not a dotcom, btw), I stand to make a tidy sum and will thus be able to game to my heart's contentment.  Long term planning.

When I do resume gaming, it will be something fast, furious, and fun though.  That I can assure you. (whether or not it's actually Savage Worlds, only time will tell)

c) on "RPGPundit"
I have no idea whether or not the whole thing is just a ruse.  Heck, for all I know it could be Ron Edwards himself (I have nothing against Ron  btw, just the cult-of-personality that is the Forge).  I don't really care.  The sentiment is very similar to my own.  Play your game your way.  Have fun.  But shut up about aRtPGs. Constantly yammering about this nonsense isn't helping anyone but a tiny, if extremely vocal (and amazingly myopic), subset of a larger hobby.

I'll probably just lurk around here too.  I typically don't have much to say, but I hope to at least be reading about the hobby from a different perspective than that which I've subjected myself too for the past... decade or so.

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Quote from: jdrakehSecond, how is refuting your utter bullshit claims about Swine -- you know the ones that you seem incapable of supporting with actual printed words -- abusing your free speech policy? You get to make up whatever you like and tout it as fact, but anybody who questions you is abusing your generosity? What the fuck ever.

Dude, you told a brand new poster, one who likes and supports mainstream games, that he should leave this site as the very first reply to his very first post, and you have the FUCKING GALL to ask me in which way do you abuse our free speech policy? Jesus Fucking Christ.

I mean, you've been especially bitchy lately, what is it with you?? You tell a regular gamer that he should leave this site when you know by his description that its clearly a place where he'd fit in very well, you go over to a thread on ENworld you don't give a shit about just to badmouth me, and you keep trying to intentionally make ridiculous accusations about Clash and about the quality of my RPG, insulting him and trying to sabotage the FtA! threads with insults and slander.  Is that it? Are you pissed off because I'm now a published game writer?

Let me explain something to you bucky: this isn't the step where you do that. This is the step where you're supposed to claim no one is interested in my game and it'll never sell (just like the Swine claimed no one would be interested in my blog or in theRPGsite).  Then, LATER, when my game is selling really well, that's when you dive into the slander and gratuitous insults and ridiculous claims (like that because it only had some 1500 man hours of playtesting its clearly not playtested enough, or that because it doesn't come with 16 full-colour poster maps and glossy paper with coffeetable-book level production values its clearly too poor a product to be worth buying; because you know, most gamers out there who ACTUALLY GAME clearly must care more about how a book LOOKS than how well it reads or how good the game plays... :rolleyes: )

If you make another post where you blatantly and literally try to drive away a newbie just because he's shown to be favourable to regular gaming, you'll have the honor of being the very first person this site has ever banned.  

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ARROWS OF INDRA
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