i think i may have to grab a copy as soon as its actualy available in print...cant really do much with a .pdf copy cept read it and ive a feeling my old shadowrun group are gonna want to play that badboy once they find out about it.

Additional information and previews of this book here. There's also some bits on another upcoming anniversary product (and it won't be the last, for sure).

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;2909922) Cover now adds to a dice pool to dodge rather than subtracting from your shot pool. This makes characters with low attack pools a little more potent, since they still have a chance of getting a shot off instead of having their pool zeroed out.

3)It's no longer possible to buy the cheapest electronic shit you possibly can and mod it out at dirt-cheap to the point where it's equivalent to SOTA.

Those two are darn good changes. The SR4 guys seem to get back into track with their revisions and errata. (Ammo sort errata, I'm looking at you!)
Especially 2 really got on my nerves, as with the penalties it's quickly possible that even a trained character can't shoot at all. I have nothing against impossible actions, but if Joe Average (Dex3) with a bit of actual shooting training (skill1) can't fire at all a burst into a semi-lit hallway while ducking behind a crate, it becomes to whacky for me.


Unfortunately, it sounds like they haven't done anything about the baroque character creation system, and the loss of tactics in combat yet doesn't seem to be compensated.
So, if the urge to drive once again manabolt-slinging trolls with built-in flamethrowers through the mean streets of 2050+ should hit me again, I'll have yet stick to my Cyberpunk conversion.

I heard that there will also be a numbered limited edition with a special cover?

Quote from: Skyrock;291335So, if the urge to drive once again manabolt-slinging trolls with built-in flamethrowers through the mean streets of 2050+ should hit me again,

And thats why i love shadowrun even if i have trouble keeping up with the rules, the setting is so damn cool

I bought the pdf. Its gorgeous. It has the highest production values ever seen in a Shadowrun product.

I wish I could put some images for you guys to see, but the authors asked people to wait till themselves release more previews. So, sorry.

Quote from: Abrojo;291604I heard that there will also be a numbered limited edition with a special cover?

Yes.

Quote from: Abrojo;291604And thats why i love shadowrun even if i have trouble keeping up with the rules, the setting is so damn cool

Indeed. While there have always been cool rule bits (like assault shotguns that turn everything within 7m into pulp, being able to use karma to buy connections or firing combat spell after combat spell without getting drained), SR is a game that's mostly played for the setting and despite the rules.

While I can appreciate the purist approach of CP2020, the gonzo goodness of the Sixth World will always hold an even more special place in my heart.

Quote from: Skyrock;291335Those two are darn good changes. The SR4 guys seem to get back into track with their revisions and errata. (Ammo sort errata, I'm looking at you!)
Especially 2 really got on my nerves, as with the penalties it's quickly possible that even a trained character can't shoot at all. I have nothing against impossible actions, but if Joe Average (Dex3) with a bit of actual shooting training (skill1) can't fire at all a burst into a semi-lit hallway while ducking behind a crate, it becomes to whacky for me.


Unfortunately, it sounds like they haven't done anything about the baroque character creation system, and the loss of tactics in combat yet doesn't seem to be compensated.
So, if the urge to drive once again manabolt-slinging trolls with built-in flamethrowers through the mean streets of 2050+ should hit me again, I'll have yet stick to my Cyberpunk conversion.

To be honest, the problem my group has is that it's too _easy_ for a well-built character to hit someone, even if they're behind cover and dodging. Frex, our cyber-adept firing his pistol has a base pool of 18 dice, not counting edge. And pistols is the crappier of his two shooting skills.

My cybered up street sam rolls 15 dice base with his assault rifle, 11 on a full auto thanks to some recoil modification. Against that full auto, anyone rolling less than 9 dice simply can't dodge, which means that a maxed out agility stat (6) and dodge skill (6) blowing an action to dodge rolls 3 dice for an average of 1 success vs. my average 3.6 hits.

Yup, I've never really liked the SR rules, but I've always liked the SR setting.

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