I keep seeing more and more people going to see the new D&D movie, many of which were fighting mad when WotC pulled its crazy attempt at pulling the OGL recently.  I remember in the midst of the OGL fiasco many of these people stating they were boycotting WotC/Hasbro and would not give them another dime.  Some of them even stated they would boycott the D&D movie.

Suddenly they all seem to have forgotten all about those declarations and are off to see the movie.

Are the gaming community members just a bunch of suckers, beholden to WotC/Hasbro and the D&D product overall? Or are folks changing their minds now that WotC/Hasbro recinded their original plan toward the OGL.

They didnt forget they just never really cared that much. They were just going along with what was popular at the time.

Quote from: Slambo on April 04, 2023, 03:46:39 PM
They didnt forget they just never really cared that much. They were just going along with what was popular at the time.

Not Surprised.  Although it has like a total of like a $200,000 budget so it will have to keep doing well it make it's money back.  Its got a bit to go.

I wont see it.

Quote from: Batjon on April 04, 2023, 03:36:18 PM
Are the gaming community members just a bunch of suckers, beholden to WotC/Hasbro and the D&D product overall? Or are folks changing their minds now that WotC/Hasbro recinded their original plan toward the OGL.

I haven't bought any direct WotC products, but I will go see the movie.

It helps that WotC didn't just rescind their plans, but went a step further and put the whole SRD under CC-BY. To me, the point of a boycott is to change the company's behavior. The boycott worked and they changed their tune. This doesn't mean that they're trustworthy, but it puts them in the big grey area of giant corporations that I will deal with as part of life, even if I don't like it. Boycotting every untrustworthy corporation is unworkable to me, short of living on a communal farm.

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 04, 2023, 03:49:06 PM
it has like a total of like a $200,000 budget

I think you're missing a few zeros there!

The creative commons license represented an almost complete capitulation on the issue.  As regards 5e specifically, it was far more than anyone could have hoped- the entire SRD, along with all the words they were hoping to threaten people with, such as "Owlbear", being placed into an irrevocable license with NO conditions now or in the future.

It's a complete and total loss on behalf of whatever faction was trying to get this done, and they can't come back to it later because the CC license is totally permanent.

So if someone was perfectly fine with WotC until then, I would very much expect they would be perfectly fine with them now.  It would be irrational for someone saying "I'm not going to see the movie or buy the products because of the OGL thing!" to continue that boycott after achieving what amounts to an absolute and total victory.

Quote from: Zalman on April 04, 2023, 04:20:26 PM

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 04, 2023, 03:49:06 PM
it has like a total of like a $200,000 budget

I think you're missing a few zeros there!

The movie cost $151 million to make. Grossed $38 million on its opening weekend, which puts it on track to lose big money. So by industry standards it's a commercial flop. No idea what percentage of that opening weekend audience were gamers vs. general public.

I'm still boycotting WotC and I'm not going to the movie, but they are only tangentially related.  Because I wouldn't go to the movie anyway. I probably won't even watch it 5 years from now when it's long been on the Blu-Ray bargain rack, but who knows.  I might end up sitting in a room when it's on, and end up not leaving for some reason. 

Not the best person to ask, since I pretty much hate everything that Hollywood does now.

Quote from: Festus on April 04, 2023, 04:36:59 PM

Quote from: Zalman on April 04, 2023, 04:20:26 PM

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 04, 2023, 03:49:06 PM
it has like a total of like a $200,000 budget

I think you're missing a few zeros there!

The movie cost $151 million to make. Grossed $38 million on its opening weekend, which puts it on track to lose big money. So by industry standards it's a commercial flop. No idea what percentage of that opening weekend audience were gamers vs. general public.

Well, Marvel/DC movies are heavily frontloaded (meaning they make most of their money in the first (first two) weeks), IF HaT is like those (I think it is since it's a niche audience) we can assume most of the audience in the first week ARE gamers.

Now we would need a scientific study to KNOW, somehow I don't think anyone will do one.

Quote from: Steven Mitchell on April 04, 2023, 04:46:14 PM
I might end up sitting in a room when it's on, and end up not leaving for some reason. 

Not the best person to ask, since I pretty much hate everything that Hollywood does now.

Yeah same here. I tend to catch this type of movie on the plane, aka when I'm a captive audience and don't have to pay.

Greetings!

The D&D movie? It is only tangentially related to the whole OGL fiasco. I don't like Hollyweird in general, and the lead-up to this movie--contrary to the simps--seems to be very disappointing and also offensive.

The "We intentionally emasculated the men characters in the movie"

Fuck them. And fuck their stupid, pathetic movie, as well. I'm not interested in uber-feminist, soy-filed, anti-masculine Kool-Aid.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Festus on April 04, 2023, 04:36:59 PM

Quote from: Zalman on April 04, 2023, 04:20:26 PM

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 04, 2023, 03:49:06 PM
it has like a total of like a $200,000 budget

I think you're missing a few zeros there!

The movie cost $151 million to make. Grossed $38 million on its opening weekend, which puts it on track to lose big money. So by industry standards it's a commercial flop. No idea what percentage of that opening weekend audience were gamers vs. general public.

The $38M is domestic (US & Canada) sales, which was on the high end of the studio's projected $30-40M opening box office. The film made over $70M worldwide opening weekend, and is now projected to double that by next week based on the favorable reception. At the very least the film will break even.

I won't waste my time on it.
But most people are just consoomers. And in 2023 where everything is owned and controlled by The Regime, you don't have much choice. If you want to participate in what's designated as mainstream cultural discourse, you've had all your choices already pre-made for you.

Quote from: Slambo on April 04, 2023, 03:46:39 PM
They didnt forget they just never really cared that much. They were just going along with what was popular at the time.

I think that's probably true. It's probably true of most Internet kerfuffles.

Quote from: Batjon on April 04, 2023, 03:36:18 PMSuddenly they all seem to have forgotten all about those declarations and are off to see the movie.

I followed the OGL outrage fairly closely, and the number I heard being stated was that 70,000 people were mad enough to cancel their D&D Beyond membership. If those people had all bought tickets to the movie, that would have been $700,000 in box office.

To put that in perspective, this movie needs to make $400 million just to break even (due to it's MCU level budget). That's about 40 million tickets. So the amount of people upset about the OGL is insignificant compared to the amount of people Hasbro was hoping would be in their audience.

IOW, the number of people angry about the OGL is just too small to have a significant effect on whether or not this movie succeeds.