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New D&D Book Promises: No Conflict! (Or Caucasian Game Designers)

Started by RPGPundit, March 22, 2022, 10:28:03 PM

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RPGPundit

March 22, 2022, 10:28:03 PM
The new #dnd5e #RadiantCitadel book promises no intrigues, no lurking monsters, no gritty crime-ridden streets, and "Diversity"! Which means lazy utopian stereotypes and no Caucasian game designers.
... Well, actually, almost none.
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#1
March 23, 2022, 11:04:17 AM
Boasting about the skin colors of the game creators that are included and excluded is flat-out, grossly racist.

It doesn't surprise me that people who act this way need to seek increasingly extreme (and ironically increasingly racist) ways to demonstrate their virtue. The guilt must spread like Green Slime in their subconscious.
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The Spaniard

#2
March 23, 2022, 11:08:39 AM
Could they possibly throw up more red flags?

Ghostmaker

#3
March 23, 2022, 11:16:16 AM
I'd sooner run Blue Rose, at least that has the possibility of conflict. Ye gods and little fishes.

GeekyBugle

#4
March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

oggsmash

#5
March 23, 2022, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: The Spaniard on March 23, 2022, 11:08:39 AM
Could they possibly throw up more red flags?

  I am holding out for that gay prom/ball. 

oggsmash

#6
March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

GeekyBugle

#7
March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

oggsmash

#8
March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.

HappyDaze

#9
March 23, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.
With sufficient magic, anything is possible.

GeekyBugle

#10
March 23, 2022, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.
With sufficient magic, anything is possible.

Yep, magic ensuring everybody has only happy-happy thoughts, where happy-happy is defined by Big Brother, who is of course always watching you.

So, fascism, magically enforced fascism.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

HappyDaze

#11
March 23, 2022, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.
With sufficient magic, anything is possible.

Yep, magic ensuring everybody has only happy-happy thoughts, where happy-happy is defined by Big Brother, who is of course always watching you.

So, fascism, magically enforced fascism.
Your assumptions are showing. There are better ways of accomplishing utopia via magic thab by emulating fascist control.

GeekyBugle

#12
March 23, 2022, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.
With sufficient magic, anything is possible.

Yep, magic ensuring everybody has only happy-happy thoughts, where happy-happy is defined by Big Brother, who is of course always watching you.

So, fascism, magically enforced fascism.
Your assumptions are showing. There are better ways of accomplishing utopia via magic thab by emulating fascist control.

Oh really!? Please do illuminate us with ONE of those.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

RandyB

#13
March 23, 2022, 05:45:53 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.
With sufficient magic, anything is possible.

Yep, magic ensuring everybody has only happy-happy thoughts, where happy-happy is defined by Big Brother, who is of course always watching you.

So, fascism, magically enforced fascism.
Your assumptions are showing. There are better ways of accomplishing utopia via magic thab by emulating fascist control.

Oh really!? Please do illuminate us with ONE of those.

A magical equivalent of Larry Niven's tasp - perpetual stimulation of the pleasure centers of the brain.

No, that doesn't sound interesting to me, either.

HappyDaze

#14
March 23, 2022, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 23, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 23, 2022, 03:56:14 PM
I already commented in the other thread regarding this, but I'll repeat something of what I said there:

What they think they wrote is an Utopia, and like ALL Utopias, once you scratch the surface you realize it's just another Dystopia.

If you want an expanded explanation go read my post there.

  I think Utopia is closer for some people than others, to be honest.  That book seems to be a utopia for people who have never really worked hard, struggled, or had to fight for anything.  I know a couple people who homestead, and they seem to be the happiest people I know.  I would not say they live in a utopia....but if your general quality of life is about maxed out according to your desires, and you literally get up every day happy to do what you do, be where you are, and with the people around you....I guess they could call it a utopia. 

    The problem is many of these utopias are IME imagined by people who are simply miserable.  Every day.

It's a fascist Dystopia. Their book not your friends lifestyle.

  I agree there, my idea being "utopia" is possible on a personal small community level.  Large scale...no.
With sufficient magic, anything is possible.

Yep, magic ensuring everybody has only happy-happy thoughts, where happy-happy is defined by Big Brother, who is of course always watching you.

So, fascism, magically enforced fascism.
Your assumptions are showing. There are better ways of accomplishing utopia via magic thab by emulating fascist control.

Oh really!? Please do illuminate us with ONE of those.
To use Torg as an example, change the world laws or enhance the inhabitants' virtues, like honesty, generosity, courage, and compassion. Better people can create and sustain the utopia without the need of secret police and fascism.
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